Twin Turbo Dates?

BanningZ · 08-18-2009, 06:10 AM

TT's are passion. If you have the time, garage and money go for it. Turboing can be serious money and down time. But be part of the install.

Otherwise keep her stock and enjoy the oem engineering.

SgtGoldy · 08-18-2009, 09:22 AM

JoeD I understand where your coming from, I really do. But sorry I am gonna be "one of those guys" that say they don't have MANY problems. My Z was TT and I honestly didn't have many problems (I'm not saying I didn't have problems, just I didn't have a one everyday or every week). Not to brag, cuz I am by no means an amazing mechanic but I never really ran into 2 many complications.

Thats just me tho, maybe I had better luck than most

Mergnthwirker · 08-18-2009, 10:03 AM

Joe, I also agree with your general point. The biggest problem IMHO is that folks who go to TT for power don't know when to quit. If a little is good, then more is better. They keep turning up the wick until they start to hit real hardware issues.

With strong self-restraint, it is possible to get a reliable TT from a good tuner. But the very nature of the people who want TT makes it impossible for them ever to be happy with "just" another 150-200whp. It's not so much a hardware issue as it is a user issue.

In my youth, I spent a lot of time swapping big engines into little cars not designed for them. More fun than a barrel of monkeys! I also slapped a turbo on my Miata, and managed to tune it to work well in the cold Northeast (cold starts are a whole other kettle of fish when it comes to turbo tuning!).

So in general I agree with your point. It is true that refinement and reliability as a daily driver require a level of sophistication that is hard to achieve in the aftermarket. Now that I'm an old fart, I really appreciate it much more. Any TT I would buy would be on the basis of delivering that even if I have to trade-off ultimate performance to achieve it.

FuszNissan · 08-18-2009, 10:21 AM

^^ That is my goal with AAM. I am installing a very mild and safe TT kit. I would love to crank out more power, but I know it will be costly down the road. If I can get 150-200 whp, I will be happy

Rob@Altered · 08-19-2009, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan

^^ That is my goal with AAM. I am installing a very mild and safe TT kit. I would love to crank out more power, but I know it will be costly down the road. If I can get 150-200 whp, I will be happy

easily

lol

SgtGoldy · 08-18-2009, 12:53 PM

yea some ppl just love to turn up the boost beyond what they should lol

Brazilbro · 08-18-2009, 06:39 PM

You're always going to have problems with any car n/a or turbo when you incress its stock power output by 100-200% turbo/supercharger/built N/A

SgtGoldy · 08-19-2009, 09:29 AM

Yea I understand where most of you are coming from. I just love the sound of that blow off valve after a nice boost. haha i guess I am just a dreamer who is willing to put up with the frustrations of a TT.

JoeD · 08-19-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 09Nismo

I just love the sound of that blow off valve after a nice boost. haha i guess I am just a dreamer who is willing to put up with the frustrations of a TT.

Dreamer is not the most fitting word. If you want to go TT just for "the sound of that blow off valve after a nice boost"...I'd say you're just a tool. Others might call you a ricer, but that's so passé.

Good luck with that, buddy.

SgtGoldy · 08-19-2009, 10:34 AM

lol ouch JoeD haha it's not just for that, it's just something I really enjoy about it. haha no need to get so harsh

sloterg · 08-19-2009, 10:42 AM

haha wow.. quick to kill

JBMS · 08-19-2009, 11:26 AM

Yeah, seriously go easy on the guy.

Turboing is a passion and its your car, your decision, its up to your personal style of driving if you want it or not. Any track car is going to have issues, if you push a car to its limits its going to break something. But thats what R&D is for. The more guys like you that track your cars, the more we find the weak points in them and the aftermarket can improve on them.

And to answer your original question yes the TT kits are out. PM me if you want one installed and I'll let you know the price. The base kit makes about 550whp. [Tell me that's not gonna be tempting to have fun at the track with ;-) ]

SgtGoldy · 08-19-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JBMS

And to answer your original question yes the TT kits are out. PM me if you want one installed and I'll let you know the price. The base kit makes about 550whp. [Tell me that's not gonna be tempting to have fun at the track with ;-) ]

haha thanks, I gotta get my nismo first. I have been talking to a dealership in my area and will soon be rolling one

JBMS · 08-19-2009, 02:51 PM

Sweet, let me know when you get it.

SgtGoldy · 08-19-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JBMS

Sweet, let me know when you get it.

Trust me, when i get it I think I'll be so excited the World will know. Just gotta get the wife to fully cooperate with the idea. We just bought her a brand new Nissan Murano so we have that payment and Ill be trading in my Vibe GT with a bit of a downpayment for the Z

08-18-2009, 06:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	TT's are passion. If you have the time, garage and money go for it. Turboing can be serious money and down time. But be part of the install. Otherwise keep her stock and enjoy the oem engineering. __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

08-18-2009, 09:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 651	JoeD I understand where your coming from, I really do. But sorry I am gonna be "one of those guys" that say they don't have MANY problems. My Z was TT and I honestly didn't have many problems (I'm not saying I didn't have problems, just I didn't have a one everyday or every week). Not to brag, cuz I am by no means an amazing mechanic but I never really ran into 2 many complications. Thats just me tho, maybe I had better luck than most __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo

08-18-2009, 10:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	^^ That is my goal with AAM. I am installing a very mild and safe TT kit. I would love to crank out more power, but I know it will be costly down the road. If I can get 150-200 whp, I will be happy __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

08-18-2009, 12:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 651	yea some ppl just love to turn up the boost beyond what they should lol __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo

08-19-2009, 09:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 651	Yea I understand where most of you are coming from. I just love the sound of that blow off valve after a nice boost. haha i guess I am just a dreamer who is willing to put up with the frustrations of a TT. __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo

08-18-2009, 10:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mergnthwirker Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Connecticut USA Posts: 243 Drives: '09 370Z PW MT6 S Rep Power: 17	Joe, I also agree with your general point. The biggest problem IMHO is that folks who go to TT for power don't know when to quit. If a little is good, then more is better. They keep turning up the wick until they start to hit real hardware issues. With strong self-restraint, it is possible to get a reliable TT from a good tuner. But the very nature of the people who want TT makes it impossible for them ever to be happy with "just" another 150-200whp. It's not so much a hardware issue as it is a user issue. In my youth, I spent a lot of time swapping big engines into little cars not designed for them. More fun than a barrel of monkeys! I also slapped a turbo on my Miata, and managed to tune it to work well in the cold Northeast (cold starts are a whole other kettle of fish when it comes to turbo tuning!). So in general I agree with your point. It is true that refinement and reliability as a daily driver require a level of sophistication that is hard to achieve in the aftermarket. Now that I'm an old fart, I really appreciate it much more. Any TT I would buy would be on the basis of delivering that even if I have to trade-off ultimate performance to achieve it.

08-18-2009, 06:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 849	You're always going to have problems with any car n/a or turbo when you incress its stock power output by 100-200% turbo/supercharger/built N/A

08-19-2009, 10:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 651	lol ouch JoeD haha it's not just for that, it's just something I really enjoy about it. haha no need to get so harsh __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo

08-19-2009, 11:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
JBMS Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dayona Beach, FL Posts: 72 Drives: Z Rep Power: 17	Yeah, seriously go easy on the guy. Turboing is a passion and its your car, your decision, its up to your personal style of driving if you want it or not. Any track car is going to have issues, if you push a car to its limits its going to break something. But thats what R&D is for. The more guys like you that track your cars, the more we find the weak points in them and the aftermarket can improve on them. And to answer your original question yes the TT kits are out. PM me if you want one installed and I'll let you know the price. The base kit makes about 550whp. [Tell me that's not gonna be tempting to have fun at the track with ;-) ]

08-19-2009, 02:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
JBMS Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dayona Beach, FL Posts: 72 Drives: Z Rep Power: 17	Sweet, let me know when you get it.

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