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I owned a 350z that me and my buddy greddy twin turbo'd back in the day, hoping to one day make her a track car. Unfortunately I had to sell

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Old 08-17-2009, 09:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I owned a 350z that me and my buddy greddy twin turbo'd back in the day, hoping to one day make her a track car. Unfortunately I had to sell her due to financial troubles and I much rather put food on the table for my family than have my dream car. That being said I am now looking to purchase a nismo 370 and turn it into a track car, but i don't know if the twin turbo is out, or if it is, even worth the purchase. Just wondering if anyone has found nething. My google searches are fruitless.

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Dont know the dates or how much it will cost, but plan on it being rediculously exensive after the install(maybe you can do it yourself?) and dyno tuning. Im sure the big name (Greddy, HKS, etc) will have their own iteration, but they like to do copious amounts of testing before they release a product like a TT kit.

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well actually.. there are a few vq37 turbo kits out already..

i know AAM came out with one but they're in the east coast up in maryland i think. its about 10495 if i recall.. heres their website. oh and also gt motorsports has a kit too, i think theirs is a lil cheaper cuz thats without labor.. idk for sure check those out.. im sure theres a few out there just gotta dig a lil deeper
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If you are going to spend that kinda money on the car... dont get the nismo man.. just get the base + sport and go from there... you will not regret it... nismo is all looks
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I kinda like the looks of the nismo but yea I'll do a whole lot more research on it. Yea I can install it on my own, I spent 8G's on mine for the 350z. Yea, I expected it to be around 10g idk if I can drop that kind of cash for it right now. The Z is gonna already set me back with the Down payment. And that forced induction really helps thanx for that forum link
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if you are building a track car, dont go with the TT. TT + track = headaches. Unless by track you mean quarter mile track.
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well I use to drift so that is gonna be the main use, but I also wanna do some racing as well so I thot id just generalize it with "track".
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for drift purposes Id go with a supercharger setup, low end tq is huge when it comes to breaking your tires free, stillens may be available soon, half the cost of a TT setup as well.
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if you are building a track car, dont go with the TT. TT + track = headaches. Unless by track you mean quarter mile track.
TT + any form of driving = headaches.

I've been around long enough to know that when you turbo-charge any car that didn't come so equipped from the factory, you are introducing yourself to a slew of headaches. This is nothing against the shops and tuners that provide the kits...there are quality kits out there, so this is not on them. The fact of the matter is, once you modify a car so extensively, your ability to drive the car worry-free flies out the window. It's never running right or there is always a new problem that you have to fix every week. One day it's a wastegate issue. The next day you have a mysterious oil-leak. After that the car wont idle properly. Before you know, you just want to sell the car and hand your headache off to someone else. Why do you think you see so many highly-modded cars go up for sale just months after they are completely?

Now que the onslaught of all the "My boy has a turbo _____ and it's been problem-free for x,xxx miles!" or "My TT _____ has been perfect blah blah blah."

On top of all that, at the end of the day...the car you just spent $xx,xxx on to make fast is only as fast as a bone-stock car that would have cost you the same amount, minus all the other benefits that come with the better car, minus the headache.
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Supercharger, good for reliable daily driven power (400-450), sounds awesome, nothing like the whine of a twin screw at WOT, less parts make narrowing down issues easier, some come with great warranties/CARB legality, can be upgraded for more power easily, sounds like a winner to me! EAGERLY AWAITING STILLENS PROJECT!!!
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TT's are passion. If you have the time, garage and money go for it. Turboing can be serious money and down time. But be part of the install.

Otherwise keep her stock and enjoy the oem engineering.
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JoeD I understand where your coming from, I really do. But sorry I am gonna be "one of those guys" that say they don't have MANY problems. My Z was TT and I honestly didn't have many problems (I'm not saying I didn't have problems, just I didn't have a one everyday or every week). Not to brag, cuz I am by no means an amazing mechanic but I never really ran into 2 many complications.

Thats just me tho, maybe I had better luck than most
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Joe, I also agree with your general point. The biggest problem IMHO is that folks who go to TT for power don't know when to quit. If a little is good, then more is better. They keep turning up the wick until they start to hit real hardware issues.

With strong self-restraint, it is possible to get a reliable TT from a good tuner. But the very nature of the people who want TT makes it impossible for them ever to be happy with "just" another 150-200whp. It's not so much a hardware issue as it is a user issue.

In my youth, I spent a lot of time swapping big engines into little cars not designed for them. More fun than a barrel of monkeys! I also slapped a turbo on my Miata, and managed to tune it to work well in the cold Northeast (cold starts are a whole other kettle of fish when it comes to turbo tuning!).

So in general I agree with your point. It is true that refinement and reliability as a daily driver require a level of sophistication that is hard to achieve in the aftermarket. Now that I'm an old fart, I really appreciate it much more. Any TT I would buy would be on the basis of delivering that even if I have to trade-off ultimate performance to achieve it.
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^^ That is my goal with AAM. I am installing a very mild and safe TT kit. I would love to crank out more power, but I know it will be costly down the road. If I can get 150-200 whp, I will be happy
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