Grounding Kit for 370Z

tiger123 · 10-02-2013, 09:14 PM

I was enlightened by the prospect of reading about the benefits of installing a grounding kit. According the Stillen website, the benefits including the following.

1. Ensures Proper Ground to Sensors and Computers to Prevent Performance Loss.

2. Featuring 8-Gauge Copper Wire, Gold Plated Connectors and 4-Gauge and 8-Gauge Ring Connectors.

3. Improve Shifting and Reduce Shift Lag on Automatic Vehicles

4. Reduces the loss of HP and Torque.

As I have a 7AT, I am of course very interested in benefit No. 3 above.

I am having a difficult time wrapping my head around this one and understanding these benefits? Would appreciate any feedback if in fact these claims are true. These grounding kits retail for less than $100.00. If true, it would have to be the best bang for the buck Mod there is, right?

Someone help me to understand this better.

Thanks.

Red__Zed · 10-02-2013, 09:17 PM

Your vehicle is supplied with perfectly acceptable wiring, and only reason to install something like this is for looks.

If you wound up with a situation in which wiring had corroded, etc, enough that wire impedance became a concern....you would be best served replacing it with wiring purchased from Home Depot for $12.

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger123

I was enlightened by the prospect of reading about the benefits of installing a grounding kit. According the Stillen website, the benefits including the following.

1. Ensures Proper Ground to Sensors and Computers to Prevent Performance Loss.

2. Featuring 8-Gauge Copper Wire, Gold Plated Connectors and 4-Gauge and 8-Gauge Ring Connectors.

3. Improve Shifting and Reduce Shift Lag on Automatic Vehicles

4. Reduces the loss of HP and Torque.

As I have a 7AT, I am of course very interested in benefit No. 3 above.

I am having a difficult time wrapping my head around this one and understanding these benefits? Would appreciate any feedback if in fact these claims are true. These grounding kits retail for less than $100.00. If true, it would have to be the best bang for the buck Mod there is, right?

Someone help me to understand this better.

Thanks.

Some people report better performance, but I'm guessing placebo effect. If you want one of these, go buy wire, ends and heat shrink tubing and make your own for a fraction of the cost.

Ubetit · 10-03-2013, 07:33 AM

Does your car start? Do your headlights come on? Does your radio work? Interior lights work? If so, car is already "grounded." Save your money. Their "benefits" have no foundation in reality.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-03-2013, 07:50 AM

I have the lines and a 7at. It does #3 for sure. The rest I can't tell much difference. Was it worth me spending $100?. Well I didn't have to size and crimp wire all day long... But for about $30 and a couple h ours of your day you can do the same thing. Transmission response is NOT placebo though. AT shifts faster with ground kit.

edub370 · 10-03-2013, 08:04 AM

don't do it.

SouthArk370Z · 10-03-2013, 08:31 AM

IF your wiring has deteriorated over the years, a grounding kit might have some value. If you have installed a larger amplifier for your stereo, a grounding kit might do some good. If you have installed any other high-current devices (eg, big fuel pump), a grounding kit might help. Otherwise, it's pretty much snake oil.

I can see no way that it would help the 7AT with shifting - unless you have a grounding problem to start with. If you have a grounding problem, just install a larger ground wire to the transmission (no need to do the whole car).

kenchan · 10-03-2013, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tiger123

I was enlightened by the prospect of reading about the benefits of installing a grounding kit. According the Stillen website, the benefits including the following:

They just make revenue

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V8Killer · 10-03-2013, 08:56 AM

I agree on the no way to help with shifting. Yet on the grounding portion I disagree. I don't have the magazine with me, but grounding kits do actually work. I read an article about one they had on a FRS. They did dyno pulls for every part of the grounding kit they put on the vehicle, and in the end 2 grand later it gained 6whp and 4lbs of tq. Which obviously is retarded and the magazine boasted it was such a great gain from something so simple. Simple yes cost affective no if buying one that is preset. As far as aesthetics I wouldn't say it does much as whatever color you choose will now be laying around in your engine bay and people will say hey what are those colored wires for? This can go back and forth and I am sure after I post this more people will chime in. You may or may not see some benefits but make sure you are using the grounding points they use with the stillen kit and it would be cheaper to make your own. Best way to put this topic to rest is do a baseline dyno, install kit and run her again. Good luck with purchase.

kidkotic2001 · 10-03-2013, 09:33 AM

Don't waste your money on this. If you must have this go to your local hardware store and get wiring shrink tubing and do a nice DIY. You Z is perfectly grounded.

onzedge · 10-03-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

fixed...

Ubetit · 10-03-2013, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer

I I don't have the magazine with me, but grounding kits do actually work. I read an article about one they had on a FRS. They did dyno pulls for every part of the grounding kit they put on the vehicle, and in the end 2 grand later it gained 6whp and 4lbs of tq. Which obviously is retarded and the magazine boasted it was such a great gain from something so simple. .

Well within the margin of error on a dyno. Dyno your car every day for a week and let me know what happens

kenchan · 10-03-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kidkotic2001

Don't waste your money on this. If you must have this go to your local hardware store and get wiring shrink tubing and do a nice DIY. You Z is perfectly grounded.

also dont forget the garden trim and the ballcockshank washer.

kenchan · 10-03-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

onzedge · 10-03-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

also dont forget the garden trim and the ballcockshank washer.

10-02-2013, 09:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
tiger123 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Chicago Posts: 367 Drives: 09 AT Tour/Sport/Nav Rep Power: 13	Grounding Kit for 370Z I was enlightened by the prospect of reading about the benefits of installing a grounding kit. According the Stillen website, the benefits including the following. 1. Ensures Proper Ground to Sensors and Computers to Prevent Performance Loss. 2. Featuring 8-Gauge Copper Wire, Gold Plated Connectors and 4-Gauge and 8-Gauge Ring Connectors. 3. Improve Shifting and Reduce Shift Lag on Automatic Vehicles 4. Reduces the loss of HP and Torque. As I have a 7AT, I am of course very interested in benefit No. 3 above. I am having a difficult time wrapping my head around this one and understanding these benefits? Would appreciate any feedback if in fact these claims are true. These grounding kits retail for less than $100.00. If true, it would have to be the best bang for the buck Mod there is, right? Someone help me to understand this better. Thanks. __________________ G2\|\|Berk CBE/HFC\|\|LED In-Out\|\|35% Tint\|\|V1\|\|GT-R Dome Lights\|\|JDM Rear Fog Light\|\|Z Speed Undershroud (SS)\|\|Red GT-R Start Button\|\|StopTech Rotors\|\|Project MU\|\|Z1 Oil Cooler\|\|EcuTek\|\|

10-02-2013, 09:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 119	Your vehicle is supplied with perfectly acceptable wiring, and only reason to install something like this is for looks. If you wound up with a situation in which wiring had corroded, etc, enough that wire impedance became a concern....you would be best served replacing it with wiring purchased from Home Depot for $12. SPOHN, SouthArk370Z, kidkotic2001 and 1 others like this.

10-03-2013, 07:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ubetit Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 527 Drives: the women lazy Rep Power: 13	Does your car start? Do your headlights come on? Does your radio work? Interior lights work? If so, car is already "grounded." Save your money. Their "benefits" have no foundation in reality. kidkotic2001 likes this.

10-03-2013, 07:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	I have the lines and a 7at. It does #3 for sure. The rest I can't tell much difference. Was it worth me spending $100?. Well I didn't have to size and crimp wire all day long... But for about $30 and a couple h ours of your day you can do the same thing. Transmission response is NOT placebo though. AT shifts faster with ground kit. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

10-03-2013, 08:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 19	don't do it. __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

10-03-2013, 08:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	IF your wiring has deteriorated over the years, a grounding kit might have some value. If you have installed a larger amplifier for your stereo, a grounding kit might do some good. If you have installed any other high-current devices (eg, big fuel pump), a grounding kit might help. Otherwise, it's pretty much snake oil. I can see no way that it would help the 7AT with shifting - unless you have a grounding problem to start with. If you have a grounding problem, just install a larger ground wire to the transmission (no need to do the whole car). onzedge, Chuck33079, DEpointfive0 and 1 others like this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

10-03-2013, 08:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
V8Killer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Newport, NC Posts: 1,127 Drives: It Hard Till It Pops Rep Power: 16	I agree on the no way to help with shifting. Yet on the grounding portion I disagree. I don't have the magazine with me, but grounding kits do actually work. I read an article about one they had on a FRS. They did dyno pulls for every part of the grounding kit they put on the vehicle, and in the end 2 grand later it gained 6whp and 4lbs of tq. Which obviously is retarded and the magazine boasted it was such a great gain from something so simple. Simple yes cost affective no if buying one that is preset. As far as aesthetics I wouldn't say it does much as whatever color you choose will now be laying around in your engine bay and people will say hey what are those colored wires for? This can go back and forth and I am sure after I post this more people will chime in. You may or may not see some benefits but make sure you are using the grounding points they use with the stillen kit and it would be cheaper to make your own. Best way to put this topic to rest is do a baseline dyno, install kit and run her again. Good luck with purchase. __________________ "Punch" Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous....

10-03-2013, 09:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
kidkotic2001 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 541 Drives: Like Crazy Rep Power: 15	Don't waste your money on this. If you must have this go to your local hardware store and get wiring shrink tubing and do a nice DIY. You Z is perfectly grounded. __________________ ThAt WaS a CrAzY nIgHt

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