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Pitch 12-23-2013 01:58 PM

Well...first time buyer I'm at 6.8%

Now...I'm up to 722 credit score and can get way better

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Chuck33079 12-23-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitch (Post 2621541)
Debt is debt and you can't say it's not.

Sure I can, and i'd be right. One is tax deductible used to purchase an appreciating asset. The other is used to purchase a vehicle, which is a liability. A house is good debt, the car not so much.
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Originally Posted by Pitch (Post 2621541)
Im not arguing they are of the same i.oirtance or anything now, dont get me wrong

Did you not read the part where I said once I pass 10k it's for a house jot a car?

That's the first thing you've said that has made any financial sense. Keep the Mustang several more years and buy a house. That's the right move.

Firebase99 12-23-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2621547)
With today's low interest rates (although he is so young he might not qualify), no money down is a great option. I'll pay that 1.49-1.99% all day long on a car note so I can invest the cash at 10%+ (32% in 2013).

Debt is not scary or a bad thing. Success is determined in how you leverage it.

What cash???? no offence to him, but hes 21 and way upside down a 5.0. Yea, borrow at low percentage and retain cash making more %. Great idea, IF you have the cash.

MMC Racing 12-23-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 2621552)
What cash???? no offence to him, but hes 21 and way upside down a 5.0. Yea, borrow at low percentage and retain cash making more %. Great idea, IF you have the cash.

Don't be obtuse, the post I quoted mentioned a down payment.

Chuck33079 12-23-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2621547)
With today's low interest rates (although he is so young he might not qualify), no money down is a great option. I'll pay that 1.49-1.99% all day long on a car note so I can invest the cash at 10%+ (32% in 2013).

Debt is not scary or a bad thing. Success is determined in how you leverage it.

This only works if you have the cash on hand, and the discipline to invest it and not spend it. If you're paying <3%, by all means. Over that,paying down the note is a better plan.

Pitch 12-23-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2621550)
Sure I can, and i'd be right. One is tax deductible used to purchase an appreciating asset. The other is used to purchase a vehicle, which is a liability. A house is good debt, the car not so much.

You say sure you can say it's different. Then at the end your still saying they are both debt. Which you just argued against....

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Pitch 12-23-2013 02:06 PM

Guys guys guys...you say I'm 21 like I'm making 20k a year. Don't be so harsh!

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Chuck33079 12-23-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitch (Post 2621561)
You say sure you can say it's different. Then at the end your still saying they are both debt. Which you just argued against....

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I said nothing of the sort. I very clearly stated that tax deductible debt used to buy an appreciating asset is a completely different thing than a car note.

Pitch 12-23-2013 02:12 PM

You owe some one money and make monthly payments because you had to borrow money. That's debt. Whether it's for a house or car it's the same thing. It's still debt.

Now, is there a huge benefit to the debt from a mortgage? Of course. But that's not the point I'm arguing here and never have been.

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Firebase99 12-23-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2621555)
Don't be obtuse, the post I quoted mentioned a down payment.

Im lost. He seems to be somewhat cash "heavy". In debt with family, upside down on a $32K car and didnt qualify for a 370Z loan. What down payment? Wheres all this money hes putting down? Invest what money? We are talking trade in values and loans, not MUCH more if Im not mistaken.

Chuck33079 12-23-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitch (Post 2621566)
You owe some one money and make monthly payments because you had to borrow money. That's debt. Whether it's for a house or car it's the same thing. It's still debt.

Now, is there a huge benefit to the debt from a mortgage? Of course. But that's not the point I'm arguing here and never have been.

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Ok, good luck with all of that. I love the infinite wisdom of people who were teenagers two years ago. Tell us more about how much you know about these things.

You realize we're trying to tell you some things so you don't spend your late twenties digging yourself out of a hole you dug for yourself at 21, right?

Pitch 12-23-2013 02:16 PM

It was a scenario.....man, you guys are so dense today

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Pitch 12-23-2013 02:17 PM

I love the infinite wisdom of people that can't understand we are arguing 2 different points. I agreed with you, and your still arguing. Jesus

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Firebase99 12-23-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitch (Post 2621570)
It was a scenario.....man, you guys are so dense today

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Not just today man. Most days. Mondays though, its bad, real bad.

Firebase99 12-23-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitch (Post 2621571)
I love the infinite wisdom of people that can't understand we are arguing 2 different points. I agreed with you, and your still arguing. Jesus

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