With VDC on, is it even possible to lose control of the car?

Amuse370z

I've been pushing the car harder and harder each day, I'm still on base rims/tires and I've been hearing my tires screech lately, when I'm going too fast on a turn or accelerating too fast (Reving quick to 4k, still breaking it in). I also experienced a bit of fishtail when I'm accelerating too hard from a stop on wet grounds.

Not really sure how far I can push it before I regret it. I've been driving FWD cars all my life.

Am I going to kill myself soon?

nogoodname

Lol it's gonna be hard to loose control and crash with it on unless hydroplaning.

If you want to have fun, I suggest grounding the yaw sensor which is usually under the center console. That way VDC will be 100% off by a flick of a switch.

kenchan

i wonder wats for supper tonight...

jlo370z

vdc only controls acceleration so yes, very possible to lose control with it on. if you havent gotten there yet, your not going fast enough


remember there are only to states of driving, on the gas or on the brakes...... when in doubt just give it more gas!!!!

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jcosta79

VDC does not only control acceleration. It can also brake individual wheels to pull a car that is losing control back in line.

Once, I was taking a corner in the rain and the back end started to slide. The car automatically braked the outside front wheel to keep the car from losing control. It was very neat to feel it working and there is no way that anyone can perform that type of car control manually as there is no way for a person to selectively apply the brakes to only one wheel.

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jlo370z

I guess id have to drive my car in the rain to experience that LOL, I did not know that, but good to know.

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JARblue

Knowing this statement to be true, I was still amazed at how true it was when I drove my Z on the track for the first time. That being said, I don't mind a little wheel spin now and again and I leave VDC off for the most part. The only time it kicks in is the rare occasion when I have forgotten to turn it off.

In the rain I always leave VDC on, and I have had several incidents where I lost traction, whether due to road condition, other drivers, or even that one time where I got stuck out in the rain on damn near bald tires on my way to Discount Tire. VDC and ABLS are doing their best, but they can only correct for so much. There is no substitute for experience - I have practiced evasive maneuvers in huge empty parking lots during the rain more than once. You don't want that first big mistake to be too big.

BTW, I believe ABLS (IIRC, Active Limited Braking System) is still active even with VDC off. It can easily be overcome with medium throttle.

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Waiz

Hitting the sauce early today OP?

Amuse370z

lol what?



Time to go harder.

critical

Driving hard with VDC on doesn't mean much. Don't go turning it off and think you can drive like you've been driving though.

luigi90210

Actually it does mean a lot. Someone who is driving with VDC on and VDC isn't cutting in means he is driving properly. That statement only holds true if someone doesn't know how to drive and VDC is cutting in all the time.

Amuse370z

What if tires screech but the VDC doesn't come on?

Is it caused by the base tires not being good (wide) enough? When I put on my Volks I'm going with 305s at the rear, I'm suspecting this would not happen?

How hard could I be accelerating when I'm keeping it under 4k rpm?

luigi90210

Idk what tires are on the base but I never had that problem on my nismo. Even with the stock tires.

I run a 295 pilot supersport on the rear now and i definitely dont get that

critical

It doesn't have to flash to cut in and to be working. Don't judge your driving on whether it's blinking at you.

VDC off is completely different. If you don't drive with it off, you don't know.

luigi90210

I do drive with it off sometimes but I don't feel a need to since it never cuts in unless I **** up or roads suck.

I think I know what VDC cutting in feels like, I have done canyon runs with it off and on, no difference in time, no difference in experience(my first canyon run with VDC off in fact was an accident, I forgot I turned it off and I did the run thinking it was on the entire time)