2013 7 auto vs Dodge ram ..Hemi engine? Bro-inlaw says he can take the Z..

xxjoker19xx · 06-08-2013, 01:45 AM

a few of my buddies go every weekend to the street races in their hemi trucks... they have a good bit of work, programmers, exhaust, gears, torque convertors, wide bands, intakes, etc... if they are good with their 60 foots but i always catch them and pass them.. so with just exhaust he has no chance...

Darketch · 06-08-2013, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Montez

Exactly exactly, down here in TX these guys put those loud exhaust on those hickmobiles and try to show out. Just a bunch of noise and smoke but barely moving....

Original poster he must be on something whack to even mention the Z06....

agree lol....it's called TRACTOR PULL!!!!!

luigi90210 · 06-08-2013, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012

You do realize that tailgating is illegal, but so is slamming on your brakes....

slamming on your brakes is not illegal, no need to make up fake laws just because you dont like it when someone slams on their brakes while you're tailing them

what if, and i know this is going to sound crazy, but what if there was a situation in which you need to suddenly stop, like i dont know, maybe a kid running out in front of you, or an animal jumping out in front of your car or something falling off a car, or dare i say it, when a car suddenly stops in front of you because they had to stop suddenly in order to keep their family safe

all it takes was "i thought i saw a road hazard in front of my car"(and it can be anything from a plastic bag, to a small toddler walking out on the street) and you have won the lawsuit because the driver who rear ended you wasn't maintaining a safe distance

no matter what you want to think, slamming on your bakes is not and never will be illegal because outlawing that will cause all kinds of safety issues to anyone in the car

Chuck33079 · 06-08-2013, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

no matter what you want to think, slamming on your bakes is not and never will be illegal because outlawing that will cause all kinds of safety issues to anyone in the car

Brake checking someone is illegal in many states. A police officer would have to watch the whole thing to cite you for it I would imagine.

luigi90210 · 06-08-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Brake checking someone is illegal in many states. A police officer would have to watch the whole thing to cite you for it I would imagine.

no it isnt, slamming on your brakes is not illegal, what is illegal though is insurance fraud(and thats the reason why its illegal, brake checking not something you get cited for afiak)

there is no standard for what situation you have to brake for, so hypothetically if you were to see a squirrel run out in front of your car, and slammed on your brakes and the person behind you happened to rear end you, you would not be at fault

now if you intentionally made someone rear end you(IE cutting the guy off than slamming on your brakes), you would be at fault because you are the one who caused the accident and you will get in a whole legal mess because insurance fraud is illegal

Bucketlist2012 · 06-08-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

slamming on your brakes is not illegal, no need to make up fake laws just because you dont like it when someone slams on their brakes while you're tailing them

what if, and i know this is going to sound crazy, but what if there was a situation in which you need to suddenly stop, like i dont know, maybe a kid running out in front of you, or an animal jumping out in front of your car or something falling off a car, or dare i say it, when a car suddenly stops in front of you because they had to stop suddenly in order to keep their family safe

all it takes was "i thought i saw a road hazard in front of my car"(and it can be anything from a plastic bag, to a small toddler walking out on the street) and you have won the lawsuit because the driver who rear ended you wasn't maintaining a safe distance

no matter what you want to think, slamming on your bakes is not and never will be illegal because outlawing that will cause all kinds of safety issues to anyone in the car

What a joke....You cherry pick one sentence out....I said if there are witness to the fact that you slammed on your Brakes to cause an accident, you will fix your own car.....I don't tailgate, so nice try is assuming that I do....

If you are witnessed by a third party slamming on your Brakes for no reason other than to cause an accident, it is road rage...And you will fix your own car at the very least..

But truly nice try trying to cherry pick one sentence...

MJB · 06-08-2013, 12:17 PM

Lol, well for one thing if someone is tailgating me I'm not going to slam on my brakes anyways... I don't want them smashing into my car!! Even though it would be their fault and their insurance has to cover it, you still have a smashed up car.

Bucketlist2012 · 06-08-2013, 12:22 PM

A good question would be, "Is it legal to intentionally cause an accident " ?

If a third party witnesses it , then the court will decide...They will have to prove intent...If the third party witness that has no Dog in the fight, says that you were mad,aka, Road rage, be prepared to fix your own car...

And for sure it is childish to brake check someone...That means they got under your thin skin....

From what I understand, the tailgater will cited for following too close, but the police, if they have an independent witness, can arrest you for reckless driving for Intentionally causing an accident due to road rage....

Chuck33079 · 06-08-2013, 01:59 PM

In Texas you'd be cited for improper stopping if you intentionally brake check someone and cause an accident.

alvitdk · 06-08-2013, 02:38 PM

Talked to my daughter who is a cop, slamming on your brakes without reason is illegal, and if it can be proven that there was no reason to slamm the brakes, the one running into will be at no fault! Will end up in court with lots of lawyer bills for either side I guess, so not it's not worth it.

MJB · 06-08-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by alvitdk

Talked to my daughter who is a cop, slamming on your brakes without reason is illegal, and if it can be proven that there was no reason to slamm the brakes, the one running into will be at no fault! Will end up in court with lots of lawyer bills for either side I guess, so not it's not worth it.

Yeah, insurance scammers are notorious for this.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-08-2013, 07:27 PM

It sounds like to me if, one is tailgating and the other slams brakes, they are both at fault hence cancelling each other out. So they would be both at fault. The second ticket would be given to the tailgater. Which is also ILLEGAL!

Anyway fvck aggressive pickup trucks. Engine braking, no law against that.

Great debate guys. All points valid.

luigi90210 · 06-08-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012

What a joke....You cherry pick one sentence out....I said if there are witness to the fact that you slammed on your Brakes to cause an accident, you will fix your own car.....I don't tailgate, so nice try is assuming that I do....

If you are witnessed by a third party slamming on your Brakes for no reason other than to cause an accident, it is road rage...And you will fix your own car at the very least..

But truly nice try trying to cherry pick one sentence...

But what is the witness going to say? You were driving then suddenly slammed on your brakes?

What if a rabbit or other small animal ran out on the road and the witness didn't see it?
What if you thought you saw a small animal out on the road and slammed on your brakes?

You can't possibly tell me that you can be held liable for something that you have no control over.

Now if you were to cut someone off because they cut you off than brake check them, the party who rear ended you will have a case. But someone can not be held liable for just slamming on their brakes and being rear ended by a tailgater.

Oh and I really don't care if I cherry pick one statement, you posted an incorrect statement and I am correcting you

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oh and FYI, i only quoted that sentence because i agreed with the rest of your post, if you brake check someone, you would be at fault because you attempted to cause an accident, but slamming your brakes in its own is not illegal

Bucketlist2012 · 06-08-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

But what is the witness going to say? You were driving then suddenly slammed on your brakes?

What if a rabbit or other small animal ran out on the road and the witness didn't see it?
What if you thought you saw a small animal out on the road and slammed on your brakes?

You can't possibly tell me that you can be held liable for something that you have no control over.

Now if you were to cut someone off because they cut you off than brake check them, the party who rear ended you will have a case. But someone can not be held liable for just slamming on their brakes and being rear ended by a tailgater.

Oh and I really don't care if I cherry pick one statement, you posted an incorrect statement and I am correcting you

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oh and FYI, i only quoted that sentence because i agreed with the rest of your post, if you brake check someone, you would be at fault because you attempted to cause an accident, but slamming your brakes in its own is not illegal

Go for it Luigi...Slam on your brakes if you get tailgated....I will wait for your thread, "just got my Z totaled"... What is the witness going to say ? " Nothing was around and the front car was angry because it was being tailgated, so they slammed on the brakes to cause an accident. ". That IS illegal...It can be called reckless driving....maybe read the post above from a person who talked to a cop....

And then if you try to lie and say you saw an animal when the witness knows you were in a road rage, that is insurance fraud...Lying to your insurance to prove a point to the tailgater...Good luck with that....

Don't get your panties in a bunch....The next tailgater will make you angry soon enough...

Bucketlist2012 · 06-08-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by alvitdk

Talked to my daughter who is a cop, slamming on your brakes without reason is illegal, and if it can be proven that there was no reason to slamm the brakes, the one running into will be at no fault! Will end up in court with lots of lawyer bills for either side I guess, so not it's not worth it.

I guess Luigi doesn't believe this....

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MJB A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Age: 40 Posts: 1,498 Drives: a POS truck Rep Power: 495	Lol, well for one thing if someone is tailgating me I'm not going to slam on my brakes anyways... I don't want them smashing into my car!! Even though it would be their fault and their insurance has to cover it, you still have a smashed up car. faya likes this. __________________ 09 Nismo #0483 sold. Viper or C7 next time around.

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Bucketlist2012 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,424 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 16	A good question would be, "Is it legal to intentionally cause an accident " ? If a third party witnesses it , then the court will decide...They will have to prove intent...If the third party witness that has no Dog in the fight, says that you were mad,aka, Road rage, be prepared to fix your own car... And for sure it is childish to brake check someone...That means they got under your thin skin.... From what I understand, the tailgater will cited for following too close, but the police, if they have an independent witness, can arrest you for reckless driving for Intentionally causing an accident due to road rage.... __________________ 2009 Sport/Touring 370Z 1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed GMC Sierra1500 Last edited by Bucketlist2012; 06-08-2013 at 12:31 PM.

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	In Texas you'd be cited for improper stopping if you intentionally brake check someone and cause an accident. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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alvitdk Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New Braunfels/TX Age: 55 Posts: 140 Drives: 13' Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 12	Talked to my daughter who is a cop, slamming on your brakes without reason is illegal, and if it can be proven that there was no reason to slamm the brakes, the one running into will be at no fault! Will end up in court with lots of lawyer bills for either side I guess, so not it's not worth it. UNKNOWN_370 and Bucketlist2012 like this. __________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- 13' Nissan 370Z-MT6-PW\| R15%-S35% tint \| Powertrix F20/R25 \| 20% Clutch Spring \|

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	It sounds like to me if, one is tailgating and the other slams brakes, they are both at fault hence cancelling each other out. So they would be both at fault. The second ticket would be given to the tailgater. Which is also ILLEGAL! Anyway fvck aggressive pickup trucks. Engine braking, no law against that. Great debate guys. All points valid. luigi90210 likes this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

06-08-2013, 01:45 AM	#76 (permalink)
xxjoker19xx Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 22 Drives: 2011 370z Sport Rep Power: 13	a few of my buddies go every weekend to the street races in their hemi trucks... they have a good bit of work, programmers, exhaust, gears, torque convertors, wide bands, intakes, etc... if they are good with their 60 foots but i always catch them and pass them.. so with just exhaust he has no chance...

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