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Ok guys heres the deal on this hole radar thing. LEO'S have a couple of different options to choose from I.E. Roving radar, stationary radar, LIDAR, pacing, and an Air

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Old 06-18-2013, 12:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok guys heres the deal on this hole radar thing. LEO'S have a couple of different options to choose from I.E. Roving radar, stationary radar, LIDAR, pacing, and an Air Unit.

First off the Roving Radar - Its set up on the dash of the police car or police Motor cycle. It uses an antenna in the front and rear of the unit. The cop has a control box in the car when he is driving around it is on stand by, when he observes a vehicle he is supposed to estimate his speed, I.E. 67MPH then he has to hit the button on the radar to clock the vehicle. When the radar is on stand by the detector will not pick up the radar beam making it detector go off and alert you, Only when he hits the button to clock you will it go off and tell you hey theres a cop, and by then its to late hes already got you when he hit the button.

Stationary radar - it uses the same principle as roving but the cop must be stationery. It's typically a hand held gun instead of being mounted in a vehicle.

LIDAR - it's a hand held gun that limits a laser beam to judge speed and distance, the officer can pick out a vehicle from a pack the this vs a regular radar unit that just emits a cone shape beam. As for the hole laser jammer or diffusers, I have yet to see one actually work for the fact lets just say you have it installed on the front bumper of your car where the front fangs are. The LIDAR has gun sight optic that he can aim and pinpoint any part of your Car I.E. your rear view mirror or roof of your car. for the jammer to even remotely work the cop would have to aim it directly at the jammer it self.

Pacing - lets say you're driving down the road at 90MPH and you are so concentrated on the fact you're cursing down the road or paying attention to the chick in the passenger seat that you did not notice that cope that got o the highway as you were passing an entrance ramp. he see you pulling away from him he catches up and PACES you going 90MPH thats all he needs to give you a ticket.

Air Unit - or helicopter. some agency have them and what they do is hover high up and look down to the markers they have already set up most of the time they are white X shapes on the side of the highway as you pass the markers the will start a stop watch and then stop the watch as you pass the next marker about a mile down the road or so. Then they take your time and do a math formula and boom they now have how fast you were going. And then radio your vehicle color and make to the cops that are a couple of miles down the road.

Now all of that being said radar detectors are not a total waist of money, you could get lucky and it might pick up on a beam that a cop shot at another car a little bit up the road. But I would not put your faith in one that it will not let you get a ticket. Just some food for thought For my fellow Z brothers. And incase you were wondering I have been a cop for a number of years now.
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Ok guys heres the deal on this hole radar thing. LEO'S have a couple of different options to choose from I.E. Roving radar, stationary radar, LIDAR, pacing, and an Air Unit.

First off the Roving Radar - Its set up on the dash of the police car or police Motor cycle. It uses an antenna in the front and rear of the unit. The cop has a control box in the car when he is driving around it is on stand by, when he observes a vehicle he is supposed to estimate his speed, I.E. 67MPH then he has to hit the button on the radar to clock the vehicle. When the radar is on stand by the detector will not pick up the radar beam making it detector go off and alert you, Only when he hits the button to clock you will it go off and tell you hey theres a cop, and by then its to late hes already got you when he hit the button.

Stationary radar - it uses the same principle as roving but the cop must be stationery. It's typically a hand held gun instead of being mounted in a vehicle.

LIDAR - it's a hand held gun that limits a laser beam to judge speed and distance, the officer can pick out a vehicle from a pack the this vs a regular radar unit that just emits a cone shape beam. As for the hole laser jammer or diffusers, I have yet to see one actually work for the fact lets just say you have it installed on the front bumper of your car where the front fangs are. The LIDAR has gun sight optic that he can aim and pinpoint any part of your Car I.E. your rear view mirror or roof of your car. for the jammer to even remotely work the cop would have to aim it directly at the jammer it self.

Pacing - lets say you're driving down the road at 90MPH and you are so concentrated on the fact you're cursing down the road or paying attention to the chick in the passenger seat that you did not notice that cope that got o the highway as you were passing an entrance ramp. he see you pulling away from him he catches up and PACES you going 90MPH thats all he needs to give you a ticket.

Air Unit - or helicopter. some agency have them and what they do is hover high up and look down to the markers they have already set up most of the time they are white X shapes on the side of the highway as you pass the markers the will start a stop watch and then stop the watch as you pass the next marker about a mile down the road or so. Then they take your time and do a math formula and boom they now have how fast you were going. And then radio your vehicle color and make to the cops that are a couple of miles down the road.

Now all of that being said radar detectors are not a total waist of money, you could get lucky and it might pick up on a beam that a cop shot at another car a little bit up the road. But I would not put your faith in one that it will not let you get a ticket. Just some food for thought For my fellow Z brothers. And incase you were wondering I have been a cop for a number of years now.
I'd have to agree with just about everything have said above, from my experience with police and radar in different situations and how I observed radar and laser detectors to respond.

That's why I gave up on using them early in the 90's when I found they just didn't work effectively anymore.

When you say that police don't activate the radar until you have the target in sight and then its to late, is exactly what I have been trying to tell ppl .

Even with the reflected microwave energy its really risking a lot that this will save them from getting a ticket.
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That's why I gave up on using them early in the 90's when I found they just didn't work effectively anymore.
technology has advanced in the last 20 years (on both sides of the equation).

if your conclusions are based off of 20 year old data, and a day with a crappy cobra detector, there is really no point in discussing this topic with you further.
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What hasn't changed is the size of radar beam or signature of the X ,K, Ka bands.

Frequencies have been changed on the KA bands.

Only the way they are deployed and switched on have changed and then you have newer laser systems.

When you have almost 40 yrs of driving thru out the USA and experiencing the various speed control set ups you really gain an understanding of what you are up against.

The way WONKA2581 summed it up is totally correct, believe it or not.

I understand younger drivers belief that when they buy their $500 plus radar detectors or even more expensive jammers and think they are immune to police speed setups.

But the realization comes in when they get their first big tickets and are in denial that their radar detectors and jammers failed to protect them.

So maybe the topic should really be "Radar/Laser Scammers Do They Really Work".
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I understand younger drivers belief that when they buy their $500 plus radar detectors or even more expensive jammers and think they are immune to police speed setups.

But the realization comes in when they get their first big tickets and are in denial that their radar detectors and jammers failed to protect them.
you seem to be arguing against a point that no one is making. you'd have to be a complete idiot to believe that any detector/jammer set up will make you immune.

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What you may not know is the new internet marketing strategies, there are a lot of instances where forums are set up to promote items that are for sale. Then you also have ppl that are paid to post on these various forums, endorsing and raving about the products.

Its all part of the marketing game.
most people advocating for detectors in this thread are not basing their conclusions on potentially biased tests or reviews posted online. they are based on their own experiences; owning and using detectors over long periods of time.

im starting to believe you are some leo troll trying to make your job easier to give out tickets.
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Its as simple as this , if your detector warns you before you or the police spot each other visually , then you may get away and slow down in time.

But if the cops spots you visually and then hits you with the instant on or laser ,then 99% of the time you are nailed.

Most of the detectors will boast of their long range detection, which may be true under ideally (setup in their favor) conditions.

But when do you see police setting up on a elevation shooting their radar or laser down on to traffic.

Most of the time the speed detection is set up in an ambush mode.
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Its as simple as this , if your detector warns you before you or the police spot each other visually , then you may get away and slow down in time.

But if the cops spots you visually and then hits you with the instant on or laser ,then 99% of the time you are nailed.

Most of the detectors will boast of their long range detection, which may be true under ideally (setup in their favor) conditions.

But when do you see police setting up on a elevation shooting their radar or laser down on to traffic.

Most of the time the speed detection is set up in an ambush mode.
This is why professional speeders use rabbits to go over hills, around curves, and in known hiding areas. You give yourself about 1/4 miles gap between yourself and someone who appears to be slightly speeding. Even if the detector doesn't pick him up, you're able to see their brake lights. What's funny is that even people doing 5 under will hit the brakes when they see a LEO on the side of the road. It's not 100% fool proof, but works for some when done properly.

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Air Unit - or helicopter. some agency have them and what they do is hover high up and look down to the markers they have already set up most of the time they are white X shapes on the side of the highway as you pass the markers the will start a stop watch and then stop the watch as you pass the next marker about a mile down the road or so. Then they take your time and do a math formula and boom they now have how fast you were going. And then radio your vehicle color and make to the cops that are a couple of miles down the road.
I always wondered how they used the air unit to see if you're speeding. Very interesting!
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First off the Roving Radar - Its set up on the dash of the police car or police Motor cycle. It uses an antenna in the front and rear of the unit. The cop has a control box in the car when he is driving around it is on stand by, when he observes a vehicle he is supposed to estimate his speed, I.E. 67MPH then he has to hit the button on the radar to clock the vehicle. When the radar is on stand by the detector will not pick up the radar beam making it detector go off and alert you, Only when he hits the button to clock you will it go off and tell you hey theres a cop, and by then its to late hes already got you when he hit the button.
Driving this thread off topic but...
This roving radar, can they always be set to ON? Since I starting reading this thread and hooking the 'ol STI up. I noticed just how much activity is going on in my normal drive . I usually drive 5-10 over which means a lot of right lane driving, so no need to really care about getting hit with either laser or radar. Anyways, today I went to the gas station down the road and when I came over the hill the STI screamed KA hit and I saw a state trooper SUV parked at Subway about 150 yards away, I swung in the parking lot and I noticed that the trooper was inside enjoying his lunch and the detector was screaming at me still. I remembered reading your post and thought I'd ask.
tl;dr Can roving radar be set to always on?
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