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I have seen that website before, you can do it for a lot cheaper. Basically all you need to do is buy the add on module and have someone take
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I have seen that website before, you can do it for a lot cheaper.
Basically all you need to do is buy the add on module and have someone take it apart and add it to your mirror. The main issue when doing a hidden V1 or Escort system is mounting the unit so it is out of sight, but still very effective and usable.
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The real debate is if you can believe these claims of these companies that sell the jammers, most have not been proven by a creditable source.
They want you to believe that 2 couple little leds or a little led array, is going to defeat a high powered police laser and most of the laser jammer testers will tell you that they only work if the police aim the laser in the exact area where the laser array is mounted. Also a lot of states ban things all the time for no valid reason all the time specially California, laser jammers are just another item to add to the list. |
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So what are you basing your position that they don't work on? You've made it very clear that you discredit positive user reviews as biased. Are you basing your position on the negative reviews that support your pre existing bias, or do you have sources?
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The issue is that very are no verifiable, repeatable tests by independent sources by "Scientific Method".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method Most of these testers that endorse the detectors or jammers have some direct or indirect connection to the industry as suppliers or consultants. You really need a test done by someone like Consumer Testing or UL. |
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These guys put together a fairly extensive laser test Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR - LASER Nothing is going to be a true controlled test. It's an expensive endeavor. The best we have is the radar detector forums. The vast majority of users seem to have good experiences with them.
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There are several consumers who own a laser gun and will let you borrow it so you can test your jammer setup. They also have gatherings to test and see if they're able to pick your speed up with radar/laser guns.
With laser jammers, it's all about the correct installation. |
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And with that, I'm out. I think this horse has been beaten enough. If you want a radar detector, buy a good one, mount it correctly and pay attention to it. It's not invincible, you still need to pay attention to your surroundings and traffic conditions.
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Just google "do radar detectors really work" if you are short money and have to scrutinize if they " really really REALLY work" because they are pricey. Don't buy one! Nor if you really don't need one because you typically drive the speed limit everyday and are never in a hurry sometimes. if you travel all over town for work or similar activities and are on the freeway allot get one if you can afford it. Don't even question it... I promise like me and several friends have said " yeah it was expensive but it paid for it's self already" they do typically give you a heads up that you are approaching a radar gun and should slow down... If you don't want to spend the money, don't get one. If you can spend the money, get one for the added sense of security just in case..... You might just save yourself 200 dollars going 10 over the limit. If you have to really really think about it, save your lunch money to buy something more important like a weeks worth of lunch.
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Ok guys heres the deal on this hole radar thing. LEO'S have a couple of different options to choose from I.E. Roving radar, stationary radar, LIDAR, pacing, and an Air Unit.
First off the Roving Radar - Its set up on the dash of the police car or police Motor cycle. It uses an antenna in the front and rear of the unit. The cop has a control box in the car when he is driving around it is on stand by, when he observes a vehicle he is supposed to estimate his speed, I.E. 67MPH then he has to hit the button on the radar to clock the vehicle. When the radar is on stand by the detector will not pick up the radar beam making it detector go off and alert you, Only when he hits the button to clock you will it go off and tell you hey theres a cop, and by then its to late hes already got you when he hit the button. Stationary radar - it uses the same principle as roving but the cop must be stationery. It's typically a hand held gun instead of being mounted in a vehicle. LIDAR - it's a hand held gun that limits a laser beam to judge speed and distance, the officer can pick out a vehicle from a pack the this vs a regular radar unit that just emits a cone shape beam. As for the hole laser jammer or diffusers, I have yet to see one actually work for the fact lets just say you have it installed on the front bumper of your car where the front fangs are. The LIDAR has gun sight optic that he can aim and pinpoint any part of your Car I.E. your rear view mirror or roof of your car. for the jammer to even remotely work the cop would have to aim it directly at the jammer it self. Pacing - lets say you're driving down the road at 90MPH and you are so concentrated on the fact you're cursing down the road or paying attention to the chick in the passenger seat that you did not notice that cope that got o the highway as you were passing an entrance ramp. he see you pulling away from him he catches up and PACES you going 90MPH thats all he needs to give you a ticket. Air Unit - or helicopter. some agency have them and what they do is hover high up and look down to the markers they have already set up most of the time they are white X shapes on the side of the highway as you pass the markers the will start a stop watch and then stop the watch as you pass the next marker about a mile down the road or so. Then they take your time and do a math formula and boom they now have how fast you were going. And then radio your vehicle color and make to the cops that are a couple of miles down the road. Now all of that being said radar detectors are not a total waist of money, you could get lucky and it might pick up on a beam that a cop shot at another car a little bit up the road. But I would not put your faith in one that it will not let you get a ticket. Just some food for thought For my fellow Z brothers. And incase you were wondering I have been a cop for a number of years now. ![]()
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That's why I gave up on using them early in the 90's when I found they just didn't work effectively anymore. When you say that police don't activate the radar until you have the target in sight and then its to late, is exactly what I have been trying to tell ppl . Even with the reflected microwave energy its really risking a lot that this will save them from getting a ticket. |
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if your conclusions are based off of 20 year old data, and a day with a crappy cobra detector, there is really no point in discussing this topic with you further. ![]()
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