Confessions of a 7AT Driver

sparky · 06-02-2013, 06:44 PM

Read about autos in this poser car:

Lamborghini to Drop Manual Transmissions - Motor Trend

b15 · 06-02-2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparky

Read about autos in this poser car:

Lamborghini to Drop Manual Transmissions - Motor Trend

A single clutch (or dual clutch) "auto" is nothing like your torque converter 7AT....don't kid yourself Sparky...

H2O_Doc · 06-02-2013, 07:36 PM

Odd turn.

sparky · 06-02-2013, 08:52 PM

[QUOTE=b15;2344963]A single clutch (or dual clutch) "auto" is nothing like your torque converter 7AT....don't kid yourself Sparky...[/QUOTE

Absolutely, I was just surprised at the percentages!

Mecinoid · 06-02-2013, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

My friends are amazed at the responses the 7a gives when changing gears. Nissan built something special with the 7a. I think they are the first to really give the best of both worlds without going dct.

Yeah, I counldn't imagine a PDK or DCT in our cars and still being able keep the price down. It would be called a GT-R then I think.

Found some more information on the topic that others might like to see.
What I have been trying to say is: For a S7 the Nissan 370Z's seven speed is pretty crackin':

The 370Z’s 7-speed automatic with Downshift Rev Matching (DRM) and Adaptive Shift Control (ASC) is designed to offer quick, manual-like shifting when operated in manual mode with a target time of 0.5 seconds between shifts. Drivers can use the standard paddle shifters or the shift lever. With optimized torque converter lock-up logic, the 7-speed automatic feels very direct, like a manual transmission. The 7-speed’s wide gear ratios offer improved fuel efficiency (versus a 5-speed automatic), while the Adaptive Shift Control is designed to adjust to the driver’s driving style.

Fuel economy is rated at 19 mpg City/26 mpg Highway for the 7-speed automatic and 18 mpg City/ 26 mpg Highway for the 6-speed manual transmission

2011 Nissan 370Z

3.7 L, 6 cyl, Automatic (S7)
MSRP: $31,450 - $40,830

EPA Fuel Economy
Miles per Gallon PREMIUM GASOLINE
22
Combined
19
City
26
Highway
4.5 gallons/100 mi PREMIUM GASOLINE

3.7 L, 6 cyl, Manual 6-spd
MSRP: $31,450 - $40,830

21
Combined
18
City
26
Highway
4.8 gallons/100 mi

In manual mode, the optional 7-speed automatic shifts quickly. Drivers can use the paddles or lever. The shifts feel direct, like a manual transmission, thanks to what Nissan calls torque converter lock-up logic.

Don't get me wrong, I still think I can shift faster in a manual transmission car however, the numbers would tell me different in a 370Z and my experience is that the Z has one of the best S7 I've driven especially for the price.

It not always how fast you can shift. Sometimes it's if you can shift in a corner or not.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-02-2013, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecinoid

Yeah, I counldn't imagine a PDK or DCT in our cars and still being able keep the price down. It would be called a GT-R then I think.

Found some more information on the topic that others might like to see.
What I have been trying to say is: For a S7 the Nissan 370Z's seven speed is pretty crackin':

The 370Z’s 7-speed automatic with Downshift Rev Matching (DRM) and Adaptive Shift Control (ASC) is designed to offer quick, manual-like shifting when operated in manual mode with a target time of 0.5 seconds between shifts. Drivers can use the standard paddle shifters or the shift lever. With optimized torque converter lock-up logic, the 7-speed automatic feels very direct, like a manual transmission. The 7-speed’s wide gear ratios offer improved fuel efficiency (versus a 5-speed automatic), while the Adaptive Shift Control is designed to adjust to the driver’s driving style.

Fuel economy is rated at 19 mpg City/26 mpg Highway for the 7-speed automatic and 18 mpg City/ 26 mpg Highway for the 6-speed manual transmission

2011 Nissan 370Z

3.7 L, 6 cyl, Automatic (S7)
MSRP: $31,450 - $40,830

EPA Fuel Economy
Miles per Gallon PREMIUM GASOLINE
22
Combined
19
City
26
Highway
4.5 gallons/100 mi PREMIUM GASOLINE

3.7 L, 6 cyl, Manual 6-spd
MSRP: $31,450 - $40,830

21
Combined
18
City
26
Highway
4.8 gallons/100 mi

In manual mode, the optional 7-speed automatic shifts quickly. Drivers can use the paddles or lever. The shifts feel direct, like a manual transmission, thanks to what Nissan calls torque converter lock-up logic.

Don't get me wrong, I still think I can shift faster in a manual transmission car however, the numbers would tell me different in a 370Z and my experience is that the Z has one of the best S7 I've driven especially for the price.

It not always how fast you can shift. Sometimes it's if you can shift in a corner or not.

Stillen ground wires. I'll take the pepsi challenge on whose shifting faster? lol

Tigger · 06-03-2013, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Stillen ground wires. I'll take the pepsi challenge on whose shifting faster? lol

I still don't get the whole ground wire upgrade and how it can possibly affect shift speeds. Also, not sure why anyone would pay a company hundreds of dollars when you can get large gauge power wire and higher quality connectors at your hardware store for much less. Just saying.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-03-2013, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigger

I still don't get the whole ground wire upgrade and how it can possibly affect shift speeds. Also, not sure why anyone would pay a company hundreds of dollars when you can get large gauge power wire and higher quality connectors at your hardware store for much less. Just saying.

Hundreds of dollars? Where do you shop at??? As far as I know Stillen sells them at $92.50

I bought mine from someone who never installed theirs. I paid $75. I noticed shifting and mild responsiveness improvements in conjunction with other mods.

Just sayin.

Haboob · 06-03-2013, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Hundreds of dollars? Where do you shop at??? As far as I know Stillen sells them at $92.50

I bought mine from someone who never installed theirs. I paid $75. I noticed shifting and mild responsiveness improvements in conjunction with other mods.

Just sayin.

92.50 / 100.00, basically the same thing. $8.00 (yes, we rounded up again) makes no difference, and they probably charge that for shipping...

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-03-2013, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob

92.50 / 100.00, basically the same thing. $8.00 (yes, we rounded up again) makes no difference, and they probably charge that for shipping...

Still a difference between a hundred and hundreds bruh Not the same thing.

But in spite of... The ground wire comment was really a joke that is now going wrong, as usual.

JARblue · 06-03-2013, 12:29 PM

Does anyone know if the ASC function reset when you turn the car off? My friend's MB CLK-500 had a similar feature - if you drove it casual it would keep the shift points at lower RPMs and the throttle response was slower, however, if you mash the pedal every chance it would be more responsive and stay in the power band a lot more without having it floored. The stupid thing was it reset every time you turned the damn car off

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-03-2013, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

Does anyone know if the ASC function reset when you turn the car off? My friend's MB CLK-500 had a similar feature - if you drove it casual it would keep the shift points at lower RPMs and the throttle response was slower, however, if you mash the pedal every chance it would be more responsive and stay in the power band a lot more without having it floored. The stupid thing was it reset every time you turned the damn car off

From what i notice, it's within minutes. You can be driving calm for say an hour, but if you spend 10 minutes trying to drive aggressive, the car begins to change the way it reads your inputs and gets more aggressive.

Shutting the car on and off had no effect for me. It seems to remember accordingly.

JARblue · 06-03-2013, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

From what i notice, it's within minutes. You can be driving calm for say an hour, but if you spend 10 minutes trying to drive aggressive, the car begins to change the way it reads your inputs and gets more aggressive.

Shutting the car on and off had no effect for me. It seems to remember accordingly.

My problem was the Benz would take 5-10 min to learn (depending on the route and traffic), and then we would be at our destination

That's good. This was over 5 years ago in the Benz, so I don't know how new or advanced the technology was at that time. It definitely didn't remember...

Wonka2581 · 06-03-2013, 12:43 PM

Has any done this (stillen grounding kit)
Is there any truth to this? I just can rap my head around it, I mean really how can a ground wire do all of that?

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-03-2013, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

My problem was the Benz would take 5-10 min to learn (depending on the route and traffic), and then we would be at our destination

That's good. This was over 5 years ago in the Benz, so I don't know how new or advanced the technology was at that time. It definitely didn't remember...

The downside to it is driving calm weens it down within 10 min as well, so if you're not shifting at high rpms often and hittin the gas. It loses aggressiveness. So if excellent responses mean anything to you at all times. You will burn lots of gas in the a7 trying to keep the asc alive with your drive style. lol.

Thats a small or large downside depending on who you are. I drive aggressive more than not so, my car 70% of the time understands me.

Before going to the track. Drive around like a nut for 15-30 min. Shut off the car for like 30 cuz it might be at 250 degrees depending if you are cooled or not. Then turn it back on and race with confidence.

06-02-2013, 06:44 PM	#256 (permalink)
sparky Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 642 Drives: 12 370Z GM AT Rep Power: 14	Read about autos in this poser car: Lamborghini to Drop Manual Transmissions - Motor Trend __________________ 2012 370Z GM 7AT/JWM LEDs / 3M clear bra / 35% tint / GTR start button / FI CBE SS 18" RES / Momo shift knob / K & N Typhoon / Z1 hood struts / H&R 20mm f/r / illuminated kickplates

06-02-2013, 08:52 PM	#259 (permalink)
sparky Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 642 Drives: 12 370Z GM AT Rep Power: 14	[QUOTE=b15;2344963]A single clutch (or dual clutch) "auto" is nothing like your torque converter 7AT....don't kid yourself Sparky...[/QUOTE Absolutely, I was just surprised at the percentages! __________________ 2012 370Z GM 7AT/JWM LEDs / 3M clear bra / 35% tint / GTR start button / FI CBE SS 18" RES / Momo shift knob / K & N Typhoon / Z1 hood struts / H&R 20mm f/r / illuminated kickplates

06-03-2013, 12:29 PM	#266 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Does anyone know if the ASC function reset when you turn the car off? My friend's MB CLK-500 had a similar feature - if you drove it casual it would keep the shift points at lower RPMs and the throttle response was slower, however, if you mash the pedal every chance it would be more responsive and stay in the power band a lot more without having it floored. The stupid thing was it reset every time you turned the damn car off __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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Wonka2581 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 3,083 Drives: MY WIFE CRAZY.... Rep Power: 2611	Has any done this (stillen grounding kit) Is there any truth to this? I just can rap my head around it, I mean really how can a ground wire do all of that? __________________ "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat""Winston Churchill"

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