Swift or H&R - camber kit necessary?

Kayzee · 03-21-2013, 11:55 AM

So I read through the whole 9 page thread talking about H&R and swift springs mostly...

What i gathered so far is that..

Swift:
-less drop (in the front)
-higher quality ride
-less body roll

H&R:
-a little more drop in the front
-ride quality ???? not a single commentary
-body roll and performance - not as great as swift

So besides the question of ... how does the z feel on the H&Rs, do we need a camber kit? I would like to go lower with the H&Rs as i do not track the car and the aesthetic purpose by far overrides performance for me where I live, however if without a camber kit this is not doable the whole price jumps up 2-3x that of swift.. and swift becomes much more desirable then

Osiris · 03-21-2013, 12:37 PM

How low do you need to go? You trying to be hella flush? If not, the Swifts drop, IMO, is just right:

wheee! · 03-21-2013, 12:56 PM

I had a buddy with Teins and they rubbed after installing... The H&R are better I think than the Teins but, Swifts win hands down IMHO...
Having said that, rear cambers are a GREAT investment considering the price of tires!

isayimandrew · 03-21-2013, 01:00 PM

im on swifts and its a pretty decent drop. I didnt need a camber kit and as far as alignment goes, im extremely close to stock. Not dead on but enough to where it wont affect much.

DIGItonium · 03-21-2013, 01:17 PM

With my Swift and wheel setup, I was able to get away without needing a camber kit for the front wheels. The rears definitely needed it.

IMO, I wouldn't go any lower than what Swift has to offer. I'm already bottoming out quite a bit haha.

enkei2k · 03-21-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Osiris

How low do you need to go? You trying to be hella flush? If not, the Swifts drop, IMO, is just right:

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No lie, your car is my inspiration as to how I wish my car would look like. Different color rims/brakes though of course

Osiris · 03-21-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k

No lie, your car is my inspiration as to how I wish my car would look like. Different color rims/brakes though of course

thanks!...i'm having a lip and side blades put on very very soon, so will look a bit different.

axmea? · 03-23-2013, 01:45 AM

I'm on H&Rs and love it. Sits low and looks great. Ride quality is stiffer that stock. I love it. Please don't compare it to coilovers or swifts+yellows which a lot of swift fanboys do. The ride will be different. Mind you, Springs plus yellows take you entry level coilover territory. Unless you upgrade to springs plus better shocks or coilovers, you're only making it look really good.

If you are going for a nice, planted, and low sitting Z go for the H&Rs. BTW, I have rear camber arms and none in the front.

Stock tires

w/PSS tires on this one.

03-21-2013, 11:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kayzee Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New York, NYC Posts: 361 Drives: around Rep Power: 12	Swift or H&R - camber kit necessary? So I read through the whole 9 page thread talking about H&R and swift springs mostly... What i gathered so far is that.. Swift: -less drop (in the front) -higher quality ride -less body roll H&R: -a little more drop in the front -ride quality ???? not a single commentary -body roll and performance - not as great as swift So besides the question of ... how does the z feel on the H&Rs, do we need a camber kit? I would like to go lower with the H&Rs as i do not track the car and the aesthetic purpose by far overrides performance for me where I live, however if without a camber kit this is not doable the whole price jumps up 2-3x that of swift.. and swift becomes much more desirable then

03-21-2013, 12:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Osiris A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: http://www.cfzclub.com/ Posts: 1,524 Drives: Angry Rep Power: 19	How low do you need to go? You trying to be hella flush? If not, the Swifts drop, IMO, is just right: UNKNOWN_370, wheee!, raymondo510 and 4 others like this. __________________ ^^^^^^^^^Like our Facebook!^^^^^^^^^

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DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	With my Swift and wheel setup, I was able to get away without needing a camber kit for the front wheels. The rears definitely needed it. IMO, I wouldn't go any lower than what Swift has to offer. I'm already bottoming out quite a bit haha. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________

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axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,233 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53241	I'm on H&Rs and love it. Sits low and looks great. Ride quality is stiffer that stock. I love it. Please don't compare it to coilovers or swifts+yellows which a lot of swift fanboys do. The ride will be different. Mind you, Springs plus yellows take you entry level coilover territory. Unless you upgrade to springs plus better shocks or coilovers, you're only making it look really good. If you are going for a nice, planted, and low sitting Z go for the H&Rs. BTW, I have rear camber arms and none in the front. Stock tires w/PSS tires on this one. wheee! and raymondo510 like this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete Last edited by axmea?; 03-23-2013 at 01:53 AM.

03-21-2013, 01:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
isayimandrew Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 310 Drives: 13 370Z Nismo MR M6 Rep Power: 12	im on swifts and its a pretty decent drop. I didnt need a camber kit and as far as alignment goes, im extremely close to stock. Not dead on but enough to where it wont affect much.

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