Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2215682)

CTS-V and Camaro both best the Z on a road course.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2215698)

I provide you the info in links ans STILL....

Dude the Z doesn't belong on a track against a 1LE or a mustang track pack...

A challenger R/T?? Yeah the Z got it. But you guys are Z dilusional. Seriously. And if you gonna track your Z. PM me for a mod list. Cuz you may azz out on the track bruh.

Originally Posted by ajc1884 (Post 2214636)

Cadillacs are for burnt out, boring, old men. Feel young, look young, drive a Z !!!!!! Feel like a new man!!!!!

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2215933)

The ZL-1 and 1LE packages give that connection. But why in this place we gotta have extreme Z lovers and Extreme mustang jockers. Why can't we appreciate the strengths in different cars.

You guys talk like the Z is the ONLY connected car on the road. I call BS on that.

I love my Z and in history, I got into some serious Z defending fights. but just because I love the z's attributes... Does this mean I can't appreciate other cars attributes???

Besides if you haven't test driven the 1LE???? How do you know??? The SS and 1LE feel like different cars dude. Making comparisons on a car yo've never driven???

Originally Posted by clintfocus (Post 2215956)

Ru comparing current CTS-V or first gen CTS-V? stock for stock both the CTS and the Camaro come more power, but also more weight. The suspension geometry on the 370 is MUCH better then the camaro any day, the CTS has good suspension geo, but big weight penatly and the 1st gen CTS V's cant fit big rubber under stock body and have crap bolt pattern




I already track my Z, and run pretty damn fast already, and my mod list isnt even all that crazy. A experineced driver and a proper setup on the 370 can destroy alot on a road course thanks to the well enginneer chassis from the factory. Car fits big rubber to support its weight, has great camber curve dynamics front and rear, bump steer is minimal, rear anti sqaut is minimal, and the short wheel base makes it transition well

Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 2216019)

dude i wasnt even talking about the driving characteristics of the 1LE and i'll be the first to admit its a great performer and just may provide the same road feel as the Z or better, but i was speaking more to the actual size of the car so dont get your panties all up in a bunch about it...the Z for me is just the right size for my personal tastes while the camaro is just a tad to big for my liking thats all.

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2215950)

I would love to drive the Camaro, I'm seriously disappointed in this manual z. The automatic z"s I drove felt faster than mine even with a fi exhaust. Nissan should stick to automatics

Originally Posted by NissanGuy23 (Post 2216222)

m1a4 and unknown have a habbit of just destroying any thread they come into, shoving mustang and camaros down everyones throats

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2216212)

Mine isn't set up crazy but it needs to be done... That was my point. It's not like we're buying track ready cars.. :tup:

Originally Posted by Lukesevi94 (Post 2214493)

Okay so basically I'm looking to sell my Eclipse (don't buy one they're horrible), and get a new car. I've narrowed my choices to either a 370z or a first gen CTS-V. What I don't understand is, the Cadillac, even though heavier, does 0-60 in 4.7 and the Z with only 270 torque, also does it in 4.7

How is this possible? My Eclipse has 260 torque and does 0-60 in the high 5s. How can a car with 270 torque be equal to 60 with a car that has 395??? ( the V)

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2216218)

I'm too long for panties but thanks... lol I'm just saying though dude. I prefer my car too but that 1LE puts it down and it's like people keep talkin' shyt just cuz I mention it as an example of a car seriously putting it down on the track bone stock (View lemon-fresh)... So you caught the brunt of it dude. My bad.

Originally Posted by clintfocus (Post 2216260)

no stock car is really track ready with a fast driver behind the wheel, some are better setup then some like a Boss 302 laguna seca compaired to a ....base model 370 LOL, but yeah ive done stuff to my 370 to get it whre i want.

my point is i feel he Z34 chassis gets over looked because "o it needs a oil cooler" when in fact is has incredible suspension geometry and houses wide rubber. It has a high level of potential with not alot put into it, similar to S2k( when it comes to road course pace)

Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 2216613)

Never said it wasn't great on a track, was just pointing out the main reason why most ppl still don't care. The same goes for mustang although i do find it slightly less offensive due to a better power vs displacement vs weight ratio. If they make these cars smaller and a little more pleasing to look at (less redneck pinstripes) I don't think there'd be nearly as much to discuss.

Please don't respond to this post with speculation article links about the future of these cars either.