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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 I wouldn't say less money, more like it just won't add to the value, even though your putting money into the car. Now if it were

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Old 03-08-2013, 10:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I wouldn't say less money, more like it just won't add to the value, even though your putting money into the car. Now if it were some crazy half *** done mods that will be hurting the reliability of the car, then I can see it hurting the value of the car.
Many of the performance mods will decrease the resale value, especially at a dealer or car lot. Going by what the few sales ppl I have talked to about this say, they assume that, even if the mods themselves don't affect reliability, the heavy right foot that usually goes with performance mods does. YMMV.

I'm not trying to say one shouldn't mod their car to their heart's content, just that it is seldom a wise business decision. You just don't get your money back when you go to sell. But most mods aren't business - I've spent a lot of money on sex, drugs, and rock & roll that I'll never get back, but it was still worth it.
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Many of the performance mods will decrease the resale value, especially at a dealer or car lot. Going by what the few sales ppl I have talked to about this say, they assume that, even if the mods themselves don't affect reliability, the heavy right foot that usually goes with performance mods does. YMMV.

I'm not trying to say one shouldn't mod their car to their heart's content, just that it is seldom a wise business decision. You just don't get your money back when you go to sell. But most mods aren't business - I've spent a lot of money on sex, drugs, and rock & roll that I'll never get back, but it was still worth it.


There are mainly two group of buyers.

Non-car enthusiast - They always look for something legit. And they will think nothing will be more legit and reliable then a stock car.

Car enthusiast - They know their sh!t and they love to mod their cars. BUT, they'd rather to get a stock car to begin/have fun with rather then let YOU mod on the car and sell it to them. They have their own opinion and taste on mods thus they will look for a stock car too.

The only group of people will(or should I say want to) buy a moded car is those kids who are turning themself into car enthusiast while don't know much sh!t yet will think wow this moded 370 is so cool! BUT usually they don't have money to buy one...

So to sum up, doesn't matter how good YOU think or in fact the aftermarket parts you put on your car, less buyers will be intestested in your car. Thus lower the car value.

Based on my true story... I ended up getting more money back and sold my G35 coupe much faster after I put the car back to stock. There were soooo many people interested in my Fast Intentions CBE and HKS coilovers but not so much on my G35 coupe WITH the Fast Intentions and HKS on it...
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Don't forget the fact that the mods will be making your car worth less money.
As long as you revert back to stock before selling, it's usually not a problem. Simple things like intake or exhaust generally do not depreciate the value as they're considered common and minimally intrusive.

The 370 is not a cheap car to mod and the engine doesn't have much room to grow in terms of NA bolt-ons.

Post-Maf tubes/drop-in filters/test pipes/exhaust are, to me, a worthwhile investment. Diminishing returns kicks in pretty hard after this.

I would agree that the 370 is not a "good car to mod" compared to many FI vehicles that can get a 50hp/50tq+ boost from a simple ecu piggyback or flash for $500+/-
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holyshit, this looks like my next door neighbor!






wat? mods are a waste? like using callaway golf clubs to hit a 100? or silver spoon to eat mac&cheeze?

i suppose. but then there's the 'because i can' factor too? ...



not a waste if it makes your car more exciting...even if it's just for the sound or looks.
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Exactly what kenchan said. Mods are about individualizing your car and making it your own.if you want to spend 10k to make your car look or sound better with little hip gains no one can or should tell you no.
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just keep your stock parts and put them back on the car when ready to sell.

last time i sold one of my cars to carmax, they gave me an apprasial $1000 less than the stock car value due to the mods on the car. they gave me the option to bring back the stock bits the next day loose in the trunk so that i get the full amount. i just went back the next day to get the full amount and just gave them the aftermarket stuff that was still on the car. i didnt really care
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He doesn't even have an STI?... Thats like owning a v6 auto mustang and trash talking about how fast your car is...
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He doesn't even have an STI?... Thats like owning a v6 auto mustang and trash talking about how fast your car is...
Hold on a sec tho, 3.7 v6 stangs with track pack did pretty good in CD's lightning lap did it?

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Mods for a car (the basic bolt-ons) are not just for performance but for enjoyment. When you hear the rev up of the engine etc its like sex, especially if your driving a roadster. Makes your car WAY more enjoyable, esp the Z being its so quiet stock.
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I drive a leased base model z... I had to spend at least 5,000 in mods just to make the car enjoyable...

Horrible stock oversteer and tires had to go= swift springs $300, Michelin pilot super sport 1200$
Embarrassing quiet exhaust = fast intentions 1300$
Horrible stock speakers blown first 2 days, $500 for headunit and speakers
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Getting a z is a waste of money too, might as well get a civic.
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OP, your friend actually gets the point. Put it in this way, if you can't beat a M3 in a stock 370z, you still can't beat them in a 370z with all the bolt on mods... The intake and exhaust only gains you at higher end but sacrifice a little on lower end. So street driving you won't feel a sh!t unless you don't mind to rev the engine up high all the time... It's the nature of NA cars... His factory turbocharged WRX will probably gain much more on the exhaust and intake mods.

Having said that, mod is fun and the exhaust will give you the awesome sound so it's not total waste of money.
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My friend is a big car enthusiast. And is the most knowledgeable person about cars that i know. He literally is no noob or ricer or someone who just think he knows. He does and when I research it from the correct sources, he's always correct to the dot. He says that getting Stillen Gen 3 intakes and Fast intentions CBE and a UPrev tune is all a waste of money just for 30hp and a couple of more torque since I will never ever even feel the difference unless I'm on a track and going 100mph or more. He says that daily driving it's a waste of money to get any of those mods. Especially because what I am doing is all Naturally aspirated and I don't get much gains unless I go Forced Induction. Do you think I'm wasting my money with these mods and i wont feel it at all?
I think your friend is a waste of Friendship

Talking from experience, yes you will feel the difference, yes you will hear the difference, and yes, makes the car that much more pleasurable to drive just around town or on a cruise... But then, it is your money and your decision.
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