Car and Driver's Cars Worth Waiting For: 2016 Z

faya · 03-01-2013, 08:03 PM

Looks soft!

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Arc · 03-01-2013, 08:03 PM

Since I'm not an engine guy, I'll just critique on the concept design.

I would think that they should go in the similar route Lamborghini did with their Aventador. The previous Lambo had curves, but the Aventador has a sharp hi-tech look to it.

The next Nissan 370 design should be a more hi-tech version of the 300Z. I'm just really diggin the Aventador design and want an affordable version,

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280z/300zx · 03-01-2013, 08:27 PM

Anyone else concerned we have to wait until 2016 (mid-late 2015) for the next Z? The Z is already falling behind and by then the Z will be ancient with 332hp. I mean the next gent mustang and Camaro aren't too far off. I just don't see what Nissan could do for the 2014 and 2015 models to try to bring in new buyers. The 2013 re-fresh didn't exactly win over a lot of people, especially with no power increase.

I'm afraid unless Nissan gives us a concept sooner rather than later I'll probably jump ship for the first time in a long time to the new Vette. This coming from a 280z, 300zx, and 2 time 370z owner. I've owned Z's since I was 17 and plan to keep my 280z and 300zx forever; and as much as I love my 370z I'm chomping at the bit for something newer and more powerful. 2016 is a long time away

XiP · 03-01-2013, 08:46 PM

I hope Toyota, Honda, and Mazda start making sports cars again that way Nissan will have to beef up the Z series

axmea? · 03-01-2013, 10:34 PM

Nice. Will have to check out the 2014 auto show for concepts. Not sure why the reaction to the rendering. That's not final anyway. More likely closer to what will come around 2014. That's next year. For me, I'm due for a switch in 2017 = PERFECT!

alcheng · 03-01-2013, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MC

^^ This is how the 2020 Genesis Coupe will look like....

LakeShow · 03-02-2013, 12:27 AM

The next Z is very very far away. Everything just speculation at this point, all pictures are just drawn renderings. Too early.

axmea? · 03-02-2013, 12:45 AM

The rendering does not look right to begin with. It seems like there were two different points.

Jordo! · 03-02-2013, 06:38 AM

Not crazy about the rendering, but who knows what we'll actually see on display, let alone at dealerships.

Sorta disappointed to learn weight may not be coming down all that much.

No special feeling on the type of motor -- what matters to me is power to weight, flat torque, and peak torque sooner than later.

Mixed feelings on the presence or lack thereof of a turbo. It's much easier to get nice gains when you have factory boost. That turbo 4 may turn out to be a real beast with some modest upgrades. Then again, it's hard to say without knowing more details -- again, the key ones for me being power:weight.

Still 3 more years to go. I can wait.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-23-2013, 10:39 AM

Not impressed with the stats for the upcoming Z in this article.

ElVee · 05-23-2013, 01:07 PM

I'm no engine expert, but I'd trade "more horsepower" for "lighter weight" and "better torque;" something that makes me happy through all gears and rpms, rather than the low gears and sweet spots. That might mean turbo, but I wouldn't know since I've never driven a turbo car. >.<

I kinda like and don't like the rendering. That exaggerated headlight swoosh and quarter window point are awful, though. I *kinda* like that it looks like it was melted out of a block of ice, with lines created not via ridges but from curves. But that's really reaching. It otherwise has proportions like any ol' normal car, tbh. Depending on other view, this looks an awful lot like a smaller BMW.

Thank again, I love the 370 styling so much I can fap out some of my own QD spray, and I'm not sure anything will be better without being a huge change.

PapoZalsa · 05-23-2013, 07:23 PM

I guess Im keeping my 2009!

FL 4Motion · 05-23-2013, 08:12 PM

I'll withhold any judgment on styling until we see the real thing, this is just a cobbled together pic for an article imo.

As far as them staying with an FM platform, it makes sense for a $$ saving perspective but it makes me a bit worried that it means verly little weight savings possibly and this car needs to shed an honest 100-200 lbs with similar power imo.

If it comes in around the same or a little lighter than the 370 and has 350-380 hp I'll probably replace our nismo with the next gen nismo

IF they address the biggest flaws the current car has: oil cooling, brake cooling, ice mode, fuel starve, lack of real lsd etc.

I hope since Nissan seems to be getting more serious about racing etc that the next Z won't need major aftermarket stuff to be truly trackable out of the box. fingers crossed.

Z_ealot · 05-23-2013, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

I'll withhold any judgment on styling until we see the real thing, this is just a cobbled together pic for an article imo.

As far as them staying with an FM platform, it makes sense for a $$ saving perspective but it makes me a bit worried that it means verly little weight savings possibly and this car needs to shed an honest 100-200 lbs with similar power imo.

If it comes in around the same or a little lighter than the 370 and has 350-380 hp I'll probably replace our nismo with the next gen nismo

IF they address the biggest flaws the current car has: oil cooling, brake cooling, ice mode, fuel starve, lack of real lsd etc.

I hope since Nissan seems to be getting more serious about racing etc that the next Z won't need major aftermarket stuff to be truly trackable out of the box. fingers crossed.

well according to the infiniti website the outgoing G37 base has a curb weight of 3633lbs. and the forthcoming Q50 base has a curb weight of 3574lbs. so around a 60lbs. reduction in weight with the new platform is what it looks like...throw in a manual transmission instead of the G's and Q's standard automatic transmission and i imagine a combined weight savings of approximately 100lbs. on the low end not counting if nissan decides to incorporate more aluminum in the construction of the next Z.

FL 4Motion · 05-24-2013, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z_ealot

well according to the infiniti website the outgoing G37 base has a curb weight of 3633lbs. and the forthcoming Q50 base has a curb weight of 3574lbs. so around a 60lbs. reduction in weight with the new platform is what it looks like...throw in a manual transmission instead of the G's and Q's standard automatic transmission and i imagine a combined weight savings of approximately 100lbs. on the low end not counting if nissan decides to incorporate more aluminum in the construction of the next Z.

around 100lbs lighter with a bit more power and if it also has better balance/handling dynamics and that is gonna be a very good thing.

03-01-2013, 08:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
faya Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Central Florida Posts: 360 Drives: 13 370z nismo Rep Power: 13	Looks soft! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk- faya baby! __________________ H&R / Swift Spec-R / Fast Intentions

03-01-2013, 08:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Arc Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 141 Drives: 2015 Ford Explorer S Rep Power: 15	Since I'm not an engine guy, I'll just critique on the concept design. I would think that they should go in the similar route Lamborghini did with their Aventador. The previous Lambo had curves, but the Aventador has a sharp hi-tech look to it. The next Nissan 370 design should be a more hi-tech version of the 300Z. I'm just really diggin the Aventador design and want an affordable version, . Eagle and SmokeEater27 like this.

03-01-2013, 10:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,243 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53242	Nice. Will have to check out the 2014 auto show for concepts. Not sure why the reaction to the rendering. That's not final anyway. More likely closer to what will come around 2014. That's next year. For me, I'm due for a switch in 2017 = PERFECT! __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete Last edited by axmea?; 03-01-2013 at 10:40 PM.

03-02-2013, 12:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 26	The next Z is very very far away. Everything just speculation at this point, all pictures are just drawn renderings. Too early. __________________ \|2013 Audi S4\|Ibis White/Black\|S-Tronic P+\| \|2013 370z\|PearlWhite/Persimmon\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|F.I. CBE 18" CF\| \|Sold\|2011 370z\|Gun Metallic\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|

03-02-2013, 12:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,243 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53242	The rendering does not look right to begin with. It seems like there were two different points. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

03-01-2013, 08:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 273	Anyone else concerned we have to wait until 2016 (mid-late 2015) for the next Z? The Z is already falling behind and by then the Z will be ancient with 332hp. I mean the next gent mustang and Camaro aren't too far off. I just don't see what Nissan could do for the 2014 and 2015 models to try to bring in new buyers. The 2013 re-fresh didn't exactly win over a lot of people, especially with no power increase. I'm afraid unless Nissan gives us a concept sooner rather than later I'll probably jump ship for the first time in a long time to the new Vette. This coming from a 280z, 300zx, and 2 time 370z owner. I've owned Z's since I was 17 and plan to keep my 280z and 300zx forever; and as much as I love my 370z I'm chomping at the bit for something newer and more powerful. 2016 is a long time away

03-01-2013, 08:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
XiP A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: no clipping Posts: 11,096 Drives: ↑ ↓ Rep Power: 534	I hope Toyota, Honda, and Mazda start making sports cars again that way Nissan will have to beef up the Z series

03-02-2013, 06:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 419	Not crazy about the rendering, but who knows what we'll actually see on display, let alone at dealerships. Sorta disappointed to learn weight may not be coming down all that much. No special feeling on the type of motor -- what matters to me is power to weight, flat torque, and peak torque sooner than later. Mixed feelings on the presence or lack thereof of a turbo. It's much easier to get nice gains when you have factory boost. That turbo 4 may turn out to be a real beast with some modest upgrades. Then again, it's hard to say without knowing more details -- again, the key ones for me being power:weight. Still 3 more years to go. I can wait. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

05-23-2013, 10:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Not impressed with the stats for the upcoming Z in this article. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

05-23-2013, 01:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 17	I'm no engine expert, but I'd trade "more horsepower" for "lighter weight" and "better torque;" something that makes me happy through all gears and rpms, rather than the low gears and sweet spots. That might mean turbo, but I wouldn't know since I've never driven a turbo car. >.< I kinda like and don't like the rendering. That exaggerated headlight swoosh and quarter window point are awful, though. I kinda like that it looks like it was melted out of a block of ice, with lines created not via ridges but from curves. But that's really reaching. It otherwise has proportions like any ol' normal car, tbh. Depending on other view, this looks an awful lot like a smaller BMW. Thank again, I love the 370 styling so much I can fap out some of my own QD spray, and I'm not sure anything will be better without being a huge change. Vaughanabe13 likes this.

05-23-2013, 07:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4500	I guess Im keeping my 2009! KaienZ34 and Vaughanabe13 like this. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs Last edited by PapoZalsa; 05-24-2013 at 06:53 PM.

05-23-2013, 08:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701616	I'll withhold any judgment on styling until we see the real thing, this is just a cobbled together pic for an article imo. As far as them staying with an FM platform, it makes sense for a $$ saving perspective but it makes me a bit worried that it means verly little weight savings possibly and this car needs to shed an honest 100-200 lbs with similar power imo. If it comes in around the same or a little lighter than the 370 and has 350-380 hp I'll probably replace our nismo with the next gen nismo IF they address the biggest flaws the current car has: oil cooling, brake cooling, ice mode, fuel starve, lack of real lsd etc. I hope since Nissan seems to be getting more serious about racing etc that the next Z won't need major aftermarket stuff to be truly trackable out of the box. fingers crossed. Vaughanabe13 likes this.

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