10% Ethanol vs. Ethanol Free Gas

LMBmikeZ · 11-25-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma

I see your spreading misinformation again.

Check your facts before spouting information that is not true

Shell 91 Octane has NO Ethanol in the premium blend and has no plans to change that in the near future. However a 94 Octane, ethanol blended premium fuel, may be in the future

It could be a answer to Petro-Can's Super 94. To date, I haven't found out much Ethanol is in PC's Super 94, but the search continues.

glad to hear shell doesn't want to change it to!

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Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma

My little research showed that 5% ethanol gave 5% less gas mileage and 10% was 10% less mileage.

Worked out to 2.5 mpg on the Challenger on 91 octane fuel with 10% ethanol. Same price as Shell 91 and 10% better gas mileage........ no brainer for me which fuel to buy.

That's a crazy difference for gas mileage!

though, it is a no brainer which gas to use in the Z! Since day one with my 40th(bought new 000015km on delivery F.O.B.!) it has only seen Shell 91 ethanol free gas I bet if I looked at all my receipts 90-95% of the time it was filed at the same shell

bvl · 11-25-2012, 07:07 AM

Go with the octane for the car. The reason we have 10% here in the US is the gov and the ridiculous corn subsidies the american public was duped into paying for all these years.

Its cost the citizens billions and we continue to slurp it up because we have to.

10% fuel sucks for anyone with a carb (many motorcycles, small equipment) as it does gum up the carbs when sitting. They didn't seem to mention that nor consider it when they moved to have us all use 10% did they?

I have *one* station within 100 miles here in eastern PA that sells ethanol free 87 and 100 race fuel..so at least now I can get some 87 for the motorcycle, lawnmower etc...

- b

MarkGideon · 11-25-2012, 08:09 AM

There is a station less than half a mile from my house that sells non-ethanol "marine" gas. Since it is only 87, none goes in the Z. However, it has been great for my lawn equipment, and before my old 65 Chevy pickup died, I used the non-ethanol in it too. If there was an option for "premium" grade non-ethanol, I would probably run it in the Z too.

LMBmikeZ · 11-25-2012, 09:22 PM

I like your comment and would say

2011 Nismo#91 · 11-26-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stino

1. I have a local Exxon/Mobil Gas Station that offers 90 OCTANE ETHANOL FREE GAS AT A PREMIUM OF $4.05.
2. Compared to a local Sunoco Gas Station that offers 93 OCTANE WITH 10% ETHANOL FOR A PRICE OF $3.65.

My question: Is it better to run 90 Octane Ethanol free gas vs. 93 Octane w/ 10% Ethanol?

I'd go with the cheaper Florida Law prohibits the sale of Ethanol Free in cars. For off road use its legal and should be cheaper since you shouldn't be paying road tax on it. They are probably doing what diesel pickup drivers do, buy home heating oil and run off of that and avoid the DOT tax and making a killing in profit. Or they are flat out lies.

"Florida RFS (Renewable Fuel standard, March 2008) required MANDATORY 100% blending of ethanol for public supply of gas by 12/31/2010. Exemptions exist for fuel used in aircraft, boats and watercraft, fuel sold to a blender, or used in collector vehicles, off-road vehicles, motorcycles, and small engines. View Press Release and House Bill 7135, section 103 of the Florida Statutes.

Florida law requires gas pump labeling with an E10 sticker when ethanol is added to gasoline. Sadly, several stations that advertise E0 ethanol-free gas, actually are selling E10! Many that sell E0 inflate price per gallon by far more than it costs them."
Florida - Florida - Ethanol Renewable Fuel Standards & E10 Laws

SeattleLion · 11-26-2012, 04:43 PM

Just thought I would chime in. I have been using 92 octang ethanol free gas for over 2 years. My Z got from 1 to 3 extra mpg without the ethanol. Also ethanol-free gas stores better as well. This is important for my emergency generator and lawn tractor. I am a total convert to non-ethanol gas. I have had no problem with water in my gas line or tank, btw.

2011 Nismo#91 · 11-27-2012, 08:03 AM

I'm all for ethanol free gas, it's so much better, there was a reason gas suppliers didn't put it in themselves till the government (tax payers) subsidized it and states required it. It's more expensive, needs more of it to go the same distance, absorbs water, and breaks down rubber parts. Unfortunately it doesn't exist in the NY/NJ area.

11-25-2012, 08:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
MarkGideon Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA, SC Posts: 213 Drives: 2012 370Z Base Rep Power: 15	There is a station less than half a mile from my house that sells non-ethanol "marine" gas. Since it is only 87, none goes in the Z. However, it has been great for my lawn equipment, and before my old 65 Chevy pickup died, I used the non-ethanol in it too. If there was an option for "premium" grade non-ethanol, I would probably run it in the Z too. __________________ 2012 370Z Base Gun Metallic--2015 Altima 2.5SV Gun Metallic--2020 Chevy Silverado RST--1965 Chevy C10 Stepside Shortbed

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11-25-2012, 07:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
bvl Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: PA Posts: 362 Drives: MB Roadster (sold) Rep Power: 16	Go with the octane for the car. The reason we have 10% here in the US is the gov and the ridiculous corn subsidies the american public was duped into paying for all these years. Its cost the citizens billions and we continue to slurp it up because we have to. 10% fuel sucks for anyone with a carb (many motorcycles, small equipment) as it does gum up the carbs when sitting. They didn't seem to mention that nor consider it when they moved to have us all use 10% did they? I have one station within 100 miles here in eastern PA that sells ethanol free 87 and 100 race fuel..so at least now I can get some 87 for the motorcycle, lawnmower etc... - b

11-26-2012, 04:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
SeattleLion Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 226 Drives: '13 Mustang GT Prem. Rep Power: 235	Just thought I would chime in. I have been using 92 octang ethanol free gas for over 2 years. My Z got from 1 to 3 extra mpg without the ethanol. Also ethanol-free gas stores better as well. This is important for my emergency generator and lawn tractor. I am a total convert to non-ethanol gas. I have had no problem with water in my gas line or tank, btw.

11-27-2012, 08:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,413 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40571	I'm all for ethanol free gas, it's so much better, there was a reason gas suppliers didn't put it in themselves till the government (tax payers) subsidized it and states required it. It's more expensive, needs more of it to go the same distance, absorbs water, and breaks down rubber parts. Unfortunately it doesn't exist in the NY/NJ area.