Driving Impressions: New 911 S vs. Z

cossie1600 · 12-11-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg

A fellow member on 6speedonline got this with stock tires:

Do you really need more G's than that?

I agree with you, it does depend on preference. The preference being if you prefer lateral vs longitudinal G force, luxury vs performance, and so on.

But its next to impossible to tell a 911 owner they overpaid for their car. Its almost like a cult car (or at least it was).

Oh and longitudinal G force with launch control is 1G for future reference, not sure how much it is on a viper (I'm sure Viper can do even more)

1G sounds little bit much under accel?

RoshDawg · 12-11-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh

Cool, interesting perspective. What about lotus?

I love the Lotus exige (a lottt), and have a lot of respect to those who drive them. I would love to have one, but I can't afford both a luxury sports car and a track day car. If I did, you better believe I would be daily driving it until my back starts hurting. I think better than the lotus would be an Ariel atom. If I tracked a lot, I would've gotten an Ariel Atom and a ford focus for the price of a 911.

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

1G sounds little bit much under accel?

Okay to be exact it's 0.99G. Anyone have the value for a GTR launch?

nicknick · 12-12-2012, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazicon

If you own a Z you understand that you don't always buy a car to be the fastest on the road. GTRs are fast cars but they are not a Porsche.

Oh for goodness sake, get over it, Porsches are good just not worth the money you pay for them. you are paying so much more just for brand cache. The GTR is an awesome car for reasonable money, although it could look better. Having said that the 911 is not exactly a beauty queen either.

RoshDawg · 12-12-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick

Oh for goodness sake, get over it, Porsches are good just not worth the money you pay for them. you are paying so much more just for brand cache. The GTR is an awesome car for reasonable money, although it could look better. Having said that the 911 is not exactly a beauty queen either.

Just wondering, have you driven a GTR? have you driven a 991? Normally people who pass judgment as much as you have normally never driven such a car before.

edub370 · 12-12-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg

Just wondering, have you driven a GTR? have you driven a 991? Normally people who pass judgment as much as you have normally never driven such a car before.

Liked and seconded...

I have said this so many times in this forum. GO DRIVE A 911. U will get it. They are amazing machines

RoshDawg · 12-13-2012, 12:00 AM

Haha just read up on some of nicknick's posts. Lol...

Ricks. · 12-13-2012, 12:16 AM

Well, I think Porsche is a wonderful sport car. I love the 911 (after the Panamera!!) but the price is high and the maintainance cost just to much. The Z on another hand is very cheaper and lucks just sexy as a cayman in my opinion.

If we want to compare 911 I think we should bring the older 370z brother, GTR....

RoshDawg · 12-13-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricks.

Well, I think Porsche is a wonderful sport car. I love the 911 (after the Panamera!!) but the price is high and the maintainance cost just to much. The Z on another hand is very cheaper and lucks just sexy as a cayman in my opinion.

If we want to compare 911 I think we should bring the older 370z brother, GTR....

I agree! Except for one part, why does everyone keep saying cost of ownership is so much on the Porsche (besides oil which can be done by yourself!)? Maybe I my parents (cayenne turbo and 997 S) were lucky as they have never required maintenance in their 155K+ mile run (outside of recalls).

Porsche is a rather reliable brand if you ask me. But hey, I'm a bit biased

But I do feel like next gen Z can actually compare to the base 911! (I have high hopes for the next Z).

edub370 · 12-13-2012, 07:08 AM

I agree. Those of u saying 911 coat of ownership is high. Any explanation of this thought process? We have a '99 996 in our garage right now with 70k+ on it. Everything done so far on three car had been preventative. Never had a hiccup with it once. I personally owned a 944S that i dd'd in hs that gaff over 190,000 miles on it when i sold it.

Sure, if u neglect preventative or scheduled maintenance on these cars it will cost u, they are high performance vehicles and will be more subject to wear and tear. But remember, the same can be said for any car if not properly maintained

elmz · 12-13-2012, 12:35 PM

I've never driven any type of 911's but I did get a chance to drive the new 981 Boxster. And I have to say, that car was a bliss to drive. Porsche is a company that knows how to make sports cars, and they do it very well. The 981 Boxster is the total package IMHO. I've never had that much fun behind the wheel of a car, and at the same time, I felt like I was surrounded with a plush environment. I won't go into detail about the ride/handling but believe me when I say, the 370 is outclassed in that department too. Considering the starting price of 50K, I think it's totally worth it. If that's any indication of what Porsche cars are like, then comparing the 370 to the 911 is a bit silly. No offense.

nicknick · 12-13-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg

Just wondering, have you driven a GTR? have you driven a 991? Normally people who pass judgment as much as you have normally never driven such a car before.

hey, you don't need to get shot with a shotgun to know you're not going to like it right?
no i have not driven either, but that is what road tests are for. road tests reveal the GTR to be superior to the 911 at a cheaper price.

bigdog1250 · 12-13-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz

If that's any indication of what Porsche cars are like, then comparing the 370 to the 911 is a bit silly. No offense.

I just thought I'd share my experience driving the car vs. the car we all own. Of course they aren't in the same category due to the price difference but thought people would be interested in hearing my experience, which they seemed to be.

bigdog1250 · 12-13-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick

hey, you don't need to get shot with a shotgun to know you're not going to like it right?
no i have not driven either, but that is what road tests are for. road tests reveal the GTR to be superior to the 911 at a cheaper price.

That was a terrible analogy.

Superior is vague. Yes the GTR is faster, but it's a totally different experience. Your opinion doesn't add any value to the conversation because you have no merit behind it.

Preface your opinion by adding in "I think the GTR would be superior" as to making some sort of false claim. It will help your case.

RoshDawg · 12-13-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick

hey, you don't need to get shot with a shotgun to know you're not going to like it right?
no i have not driven either, but that is what road tests are for. road tests reveal the GTR to be superior to the 911 at a cheaper price.

Lol ok dude.

cossie1600 · 12-13-2012, 06:44 PM

Sounds like a whiny guy who can't afford either haha

12-13-2012, 12:00 AM	#66 (permalink)
RoshDawg Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: NM / CA Posts: 981 Drives: '13 911 C2S Rep Power: 14	Haha just read up on some of nicknick's posts. Lol... __________________ \| EVO X MR \| '11 WRX STI \| 370Z SPRT \| 911 (991) C2S \|

12-13-2012, 12:16 AM	#67 (permalink)
Ricks. Base Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dallas Posts: 8 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 12	Well, I think Porsche is a wonderful sport car. I love the 911 (after the Panamera!!) but the price is high and the maintainance cost just to much. The Z on another hand is very cheaper and lucks just sexy as a cayman in my opinion. If we want to compare 911 I think we should bring the older 370z brother, GTR.... __________________ Rick

12-13-2012, 07:08 AM	#69 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 19	I agree. Those of u saying 911 coat of ownership is high. Any explanation of this thought process? We have a '99 996 in our garage right now with 70k+ on it. Everything done so far on three car had been preventative. Never had a hiccup with it once. I personally owned a 944S that i dd'd in hs that gaff over 190,000 miles on it when i sold it. Sure, if u neglect preventative or scheduled maintenance on these cars it will cost u, they are high performance vehicles and will be more subject to wear and tear. But remember, the same can be said for any car if not properly maintained __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

12-13-2012, 06:44 PM	#75 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	Sounds like a whiny guy who can't afford either haha bigdog1250 and RoshDawg like this.

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12-13-2012, 12:35 PM	#70 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 17	I've never driven any type of 911's but I did get a chance to drive the new 981 Boxster. And I have to say, that car was a bliss to drive. Porsche is a company that knows how to make sports cars, and they do it very well. The 981 Boxster is the total package IMHO. I've never had that much fun behind the wheel of a car, and at the same time, I felt like I was surrounded with a plush environment. I won't go into detail about the ride/handling but believe me when I say, the 370 is outclassed in that department too. Considering the starting price of 50K, I think it's totally worth it. If that's any indication of what Porsche cars are like, then comparing the 370 to the 911 is a bit silly. No offense.