Why are reviewers so hard on the z?

cossie1600 · 09-05-2012, 07:11 PM

Not saying you guys are wrong, but some of you are true fanboys

JungleZ · 09-05-2012, 07:53 PM

besides the 100,000 dollar gtr what is nissans secret?Theres really nothing special about using the same vq in most their cars, and making little sentras and versas will always be there as a choice but most people know Honda and Toyota for better reliability and resale.

A-Train · 09-05-2012, 08:32 PM

Hondas and Toyotas are synonymous with BORING. I had a 1995 Camry. Great car. Ran like a Swiss clock, but boring as can be. That car never put a smile on my face. How many cars are as fun to pull the wheel hard and floor it as the Z. It's a sexy and reliable drift king!

Red__Zed · 09-05-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by A-Train

Hondas and Toyotas are synonymous with BORING. I had a 1995 Camry. Great car. Ran like a Swiss clock, but boring as can be. That car never put a smile on my face. How many cars are as fun to pull the wheel hard and floor it as the Z. It's a sexy and reliable drift king!

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-05-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by A-Train

Hondas and Toyotas are synonymous with BORING. I had a 1995 Camry. Great car. Ran like a Swiss clock, but boring as can be. That car never put a smile on my face. How many cars are as fun to pull the wheel hard and floor it as the Z. It's a sexy and reliable drift king!

There are a dozen cars that are better suited for drift over the Z. But i applaud your enthusiasm.

Read T · 09-05-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Not saying you guys are wrong, but some of you are true fanboys

Too True. The Z isn't the best car of all time.

That would be a morgan.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-05-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Not saying you guys are wrong, but some of you are true fanboys

Yeah but the flipside is... Some of you guys have a couple problems with your car, and begin the self loathing for making the Z purchase. Then you expect the rest of us to lose enthusiasm. And all of a sudden, If we don't have any problems with our cars and are enjoying them... We are either:

1. Not driving our cars hard enough to have problems
2. We are making up or exaggerating our positive experiences
3. Plain old being fanboys.

I personally have been called a fanboy when i like cars out there equal to or more than the Z. Cars like the Corvette GS/Z06, GTR Porsche cayman, 135i,Mistsubishi EVO, subaru sti, and gencoupe 2.0

the Z imho opinion ties with the 135 and evo while is slightly eclipsed by the vette, GT-R and cayman. I rank the rest right below but all are close. The vette eclipses them all on a track and if we fo 911 and R8 status... thats a whole new game.

Fanboys can't see beyond what they drive. Many of us love our Z's first. there's nothing wrong with that. but we love other cars too. We are in our Z's. We respect and love other cars. But it doesn't mean we gotta suck someone's **** either for having something different. and guys that tend to call out FANBOY alot suck alot of other car ****... Self loathing- Reverse Fanboys.'

It is what it is...

cossie1600 · 09-05-2012, 11:15 PM

I am not saying you are right or wrong, I am just saying you need to lay off the kool-aid as not all reviewers/journalists are 100% wrong. They just happen to not agree with you. It is what it is.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yeah but the flipside is... Some of you guys have a couple problems with your car, and begin the self loathing for making the Z purchase. Then you expect the rest of us to lose enthusiasm. And all of a sudden, If we don't have any problems with our cars and are enjoying them... We are either:

1. Not driving our cars hard enough to have problems
2. We are making up or exaggerating our positive experiences
3. Plain old being fanboys.

I personally have been called a fanboy when i like cars out there equal to or more than the Z. Cars like the Corvette GS/Z06, GTR Porsche cayman, 135i,Mistsubishi EVO, subaru sti, and gencoupe 2.0

the Z imho opinion ties with the 135 and evo while is slightly eclipsed by the vette, GT-R and cayman. I rank the rest right below but all are close. The vette eclipses them all on a track and if we fo 911 and R8 status... thats a whole new game.

Fanboys can't see beyond what they drive. Many of us love our Z's first. there's nothing wrong with that. but we love other cars too. We are in our Z's. We respect and love other cars. But it doesn't mean we gotta suck someone's **** either for having something different. and guys that tend to call out FANBOY alot suck alot of other car ****... Self loathing- Reverse Fanboys.'

It is what it is...

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-05-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I am not saying you are right or wrong, I am just saying you need to lay off the kool-aid as not all reviewers/journalists are 100% wrong. They just happen to not agree with you. It is what it is.

I guess somewhere in your reading you didn't read this part.

"I'm not saying there isn't any realism to most of the Z's issues. But other cars never get this much bad press when there are cars with more issues. BMW, Audi, Mitsubishi and hyundai have seen more reliability issues in there sports cars. Where's the laundry list on there complaints???"

I know there's realism to what they say and in 65% of cases they are not wrong... Just exaggerating most of it. And thats a fact. I've seen em do it to hyundai against the camaro. The Corvette etc... but im talking specifically about a particular pattern thats unique with Z articles...

asdfsammich · 09-06-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

... not all reviewers/journalists are 100% wrong. They just happen to not agree with you. It is what it is.

There are lazy writers out there, it is what it is. It doesn't mean lazy writers are 100% wrong on everything they say, or that 100% of writers are lazy.

Well, the point is, I don't get what you're trying to say.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-06-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by asdfsammich

There are lazy writers out there, it is what it is. It doesn't mean lazy writers are 100% wrong on everything they say, or that 100% of writers are lazy.

Well, the point is, I don't get what you're trying to say.

The point is... "Self-Loathing Reverse Fanboyism" never has a point. Just an argument

Here in the land of make believe, we are going to learn a new phrase... Lets all say the new phrase of the week boys and girls...

"SELF-LOATHING
REVERSE
FANBOYISM."

Now lets sing...
won't you be my... won't you be my... won't you be, my neighbor!!!

cossie1600 · 09-06-2012, 01:07 AM

I honestly didn't read any of the articles to say if they are right or wrong. I am just saying they can't all be wrong all the time. They must have some points that they are correct. Subjective opinions should be taken as such, don't over analyze it.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I guess somewhere in your reading you didn't read this part.

"I'm not saying there isn't any realism to most of the Z's issues. But other cars never get this much bad press when there are cars with more issues. BMW, Audi, Mitsubishi and hyundai have seen more reliability issues in there sports cars. Where's the laundry list on there complaints???"

I know there's realism to what they say and in 65% of cases they are not wrong... Just exaggerating most of it. And thats a fact. I've seen em do it to hyundai against the camaro. The Corvette etc... but im talking specifically about a particular pattern thats unique with Z articles...

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdfsammich

There are lazy writers out there, it is what it is. It doesn't mean lazy writers are 100% wrong on everything they say, or that 100% of writers are lazy.

Well, the point is, I don't get what you're trying to say.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-06-2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I honestly didn't read any of the articles to say if they are right or wrong. I am just saying they can't all be wrong all the time. They must have some points that they are correct. Subjective opinions should be taken as such, don't over analyze it.

My head hurts.

Z_ealot · 09-06-2012, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

My head hurts.

thats where the ignore function comes in handy

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09-05-2012, 07:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 32	Not saying you guys are wrong, but some of you are true fanboys

09-05-2012, 07:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
JungleZ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: orange county,ca Posts: 652 Drives: leased base z... Rep Power: 0	besides the 100,000 dollar gtr what is nissans secret?Theres really nothing special about using the same vq in most their cars, and making little sentras and versas will always be there as a choice but most people know Honda and Toyota for better reliability and resale.

09-05-2012, 08:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
A-Train Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Seattle Posts: 41 Drives: 2011 370Zed Rep Power: 15	Hondas and Toyotas are synonymous with BORING. I had a 1995 Camry. Great car. Ran like a Swiss clock, but boring as can be. That car never put a smile on my face. How many cars are as fun to pull the wheel hard and floor it as the Z. It's a sexy and reliable drift king!