Nissan 370Z Forum  

New Motortrend review of 2012 370Z

Originally Posted by Z_ealot eh no problem man, heck even i know my VLSD will eventually go out but i plan to replace it with a real LSD long before

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-01-2012, 02:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Racertrack
Posts: 29
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 12
370Z_RACER is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z_ealot View Post
eh no problem man, heck even i know my VLSD will eventually go out but i plan to replace it with a real LSD long before then anyway...still kinda disappointing that nissan would choose to cheap out on not putting a real LSD in there to begin with though or at least give us the option of putting one of their Nismo GT clutch type LSD on the car. i know i was just browsing through their build your own Z tool and noticed they now give you the option of choosing Nismo parts including the catback exhaust system.
everyone says this but I bet you dont even knwow what a new lsd would do
370Z_RACER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 03:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Z_ealot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 2,045
Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt
Rep Power: 10090
Z_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER View Post
everyone says this but I bet you dont even knwow what a new lsd would do
your right i don't, but i do know the basic function of an LSD is to make sure power goes to the wheel with the most grip and the VLSD does that, but it will eventually wear out and have to be completely rebuilt. only thing i was saying is i would have liked a sturdier design from the factory.
Z_ealot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 03:30 PM   #18 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
asdfsammich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Southern California
Posts: 456
Drives: 09 370Z SR MT
Rep Power: 13
asdfsammich is on a distinguished road
Default

Cool. Review wasn't lazy, random regurgitation or PR for other cars. It was actually Z relevant. Win!
asdfsammich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 06:28 PM   #19 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
danegrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Knoxville
Age: 71
Posts: 3,109
Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6
Rep Power: 599206
danegrey has a reputation beyond reputedanegrey has a reputation beyond reputedanegrey has a reputation beyond reputedanegrey has a reputation beyond reputedanegrey has a reputation beyond reputedanegrey has a reputation beyond reputedanegrey has a reputation beyond reputedanegrey has a reputation beyond reputedanegrey has a reputation beyond reputedanegrey has a reputation beyond reputedanegrey has a reputation beyond repute
Default

not a bad review, nice to know you have to work it, and that is why I enjoy my Z,
problems are probably because its Press Car and everyone it testing it.

I have almost 20K on my in a year, and it still runs nice and strong, just wished I had more time to autocross it than I have only 3 times since I got it in October 11
danegrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2012, 09:27 PM   #20 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Mt Tam I am's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: California
Posts: 10,709
Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE
Rep Power: 3842
Mt Tam I am has a reputation beyond reputeMt Tam I am has a reputation beyond reputeMt Tam I am has a reputation beyond reputeMt Tam I am has a reputation beyond reputeMt Tam I am has a reputation beyond reputeMt Tam I am has a reputation beyond reputeMt Tam I am has a reputation beyond reputeMt Tam I am has a reputation beyond reputeMt Tam I am has a reputation beyond reputeMt Tam I am has a reputation beyond reputeMt Tam I am has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by danegrey View Post
not a bad review, nice to know you have to work it, and that is why I enjoy my Z,
problems are probably because its Press Car and everyone it testing it.

I have almost 20K on my in a year, and it still runs nice and strong, just wished I had more time to autocross it than I have only 3 times since I got it in October 11
Be grateful. Still more than many.
__________________
"Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women."
Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler. Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber
Mt Tam I am is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 10:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
UNKNOWN_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ny'r livn in tx
Posts: 8,687
Drives: well over 130m.p.h.
Rep Power: 14857
UNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER View Post
everyone says this but I bet you dont even knwow what a new lsd would do
Since you know so much about LSD's... Can you explain the strengths and weaknesses between Nissan's in-house Vicious Limited slip differential and the much praised Torsen LSD that everyone praises?
UNKNOWN_370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 11:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Red__Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: window seat
Posts: 28,940
Drives: Mostly on two wheels
Rep Power: 119
Red__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 View Post
Since you know so much about LSD's... Can you explain the strengths and weaknesses between Nissan's in-house Vicious Limited slip differential and the much praised Torsen LSD that everyone praises?
the torsen keeps working past lap 1
Red__Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 11:26 AM   #23 (permalink)
Base Member
 
LiquidCrewZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Westerville, OH
Posts: 159
Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z B M6
Rep Power: 13
LiquidCrewZ is on a distinguished road
Default

Great review and I agree but that z has been beaten on it's whole life to test its performance. The dude recognized that and test it for what it was. Just a really fun, fast, car to drive. Even if it's a repost, it's a great one.
LiquidCrewZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 11:33 AM   #24 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
UNKNOWN_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ny'r livn in tx
Posts: 8,687
Drives: well over 130m.p.h.
Rep Power: 14857
UNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
the torsen keeps working past lap 1
lol... I was hoping you'd troll this thread.
UNKNOWN_370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 11:41 AM   #25 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Red__Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: window seat
Posts: 28,940
Drives: Mostly on two wheels
Rep Power: 119
Red__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 View Post
lol... I was hoping you'd troll this thread.
for the sake of giving a serious answer:

1: reduces (effectively removes) the heat issue; keeps working for track use
2: doesn't burn up after a couple of track days
3: significantly more consistent and predictable lockup, not to mention faster response with the torsen
4: fanbois don't tell people their torsen diff is a "vicious" differential



The torsen still runs into delivery issues if you lift a tire, but for most weekend warriors, losing power over a curb isn't catastrophic (and may even be preferable)
Red__Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 12:12 PM   #26 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TheGreatOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Montreal, Canada
Age: 46
Posts: 1,980
Drives: E60 BMW M5
Rep Power: 21
TheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Hmmm, pretty fair review compared to some I've seen

I do find this car is tougher to manipulate than some others but thats why I love it and everyday I'm still learning how to get the most out of it

I never get tired of seeing a Z in action (since I never get to see me driving lol)
__________________
2017 SUBARU STI
2008 E60 M5 - SOLD
2010 40th Anniversary 370Z - SOLD (and missing her)
TheGreatOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 12:22 PM   #27 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
UNKNOWN_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ny'r livn in tx
Posts: 8,687
Drives: well over 130m.p.h.
Rep Power: 14857
UNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
for the sake of giving a serious answer:

1: reduces (effectively removes) the heat issue; keeps working for track use
2: doesn't burn up after a couple of track days
3: significantly more consistent and predictable lockup, not to mention faster response with the torsen
4: fanbois don't tell people their torsen diff is a "vicious" differential



The torsen still runs into delivery issues if you lift a tire, but for most weekend warriors, losing power over a curb isn't catastrophic (and may even be preferable)
Thanks... I knew that much, but I felt Mr. Racer should have schooled Z_ealot since he was so quick to pass judgement on his comment. Everyone's a critic but no one is an educator these days.

But you do have much more track time than me and I would like to ask you, between quaife and os giken. Which do you recommend as a dual street and track lsd and why? This I don't know so i'm seriously asking? Thanks in advance.
UNKNOWN_370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 12:49 PM   #28 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Z_ealot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 2,045
Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt
Rep Power: 10090
Z_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 View Post
Thanks... I knew that much, but I felt Mr. Racer should have schooled Z_ealot since he was so quick to pass judgement on his comment. Everyone's a critic but no one is an educator these days.

But you do have much more track time than me and I would like to ask you, between quaife and os giken. Which do you recommend as a dual street and track lsd and why? This I don't know so i'm seriously asking? Thanks in advance.
thats what i have wikipedia and books for on this type of stuff, no need for anybody to be "schooling" anyone, we are all here to learn one way or another
Z_ealot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 01:02 PM   #29 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Red__Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: window seat
Posts: 28,940
Drives: Mostly on two wheels
Rep Power: 119
Red__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 View Post
Thanks... I knew that much, but I felt Mr. Racer should have schooled Z_ealot since he was so quick to pass judgement on his comment. Everyone's a critic but no one is an educator these days.

But you do have much more track time than me and I would like to ask you, between quaife and os giken. Which do you recommend as a dual street and track lsd and why? This I don't know so i'm seriously asking? Thanks in advance.
I've never run the OSG, but SPOHN and the other who use it have nothing but good to say about it.

I really personally have a strong preference towards torsen over clutch-type, mostly because the engagement on a clutch-type diff can be harsh, and the need to rebuild is a PITA. I understand that the OSG has relatively mild rebuild needs, and it doesn't come on too harshly. You'd probably be better served talking to someone that has run with one.

For my money, I'd go with quaife, although I will say that it seems like clutch-types are getting more civil.
Red__Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 01:26 PM   #30 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
UNKNOWN_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ny'r livn in tx
Posts: 8,687
Drives: well over 130m.p.h.
Rep Power: 14857
UNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
I've never run the OSG, but SPOHN and the other who use it have nothing but good to say about it.

I really personally have a strong preference towards torsen over clutch-type, mostly because the engagement on a clutch-type diff can be harsh, and the need to rebuild is a PITA. I understand that the OSG has relatively mild rebuild needs, and it doesn't come on too harshly. You'd probably be better served talking to someone that has run with one.

For my money, I'd go with quaife, although I will say that it seems like clutch-types are getting more civil.
Thanks, I'll hit up spohn. Leaning toward quaife myself, but so many good things said about OSG. I better get testimonials on it. I have experience on quaife, torsen, cusco and this in house vlsd. Cusco works well when it works but has a short life span and a major PITA to rebuild. I rather spend the extra money in something better. Quaifes worked great for me so I have some bias in that area so i can use some schooling. There are lots of LSD's out there for the Z now. Just wanna make the right purchase the first time around. Performance and reliability must be equally high.
UNKNOWN_370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
370Z video on wot.motortrend.com Raven370Z Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery 6 08-29-2012 06:39 PM
2012 Autobytel review of the 370z UNKNOWN_370 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 12 04-26-2012 09:36 PM
2012 370z just installed MXP catback - mini review SiRay6 Intake/Exhaust 12 11-20-2011 11:45 AM
MotorTrend Video Review of Nissan 370z TheManTheMyth Nissan 370Z General Discussions 9 12-02-2008 10:43 AM
MotorTrend First Look: 2009 Nissan 370Z 11.19.08 AK370Z Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery 2 11-20-2008 04:09 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2