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Originally Posted by Z-WHIZ Hey guys, I recently purchased a base 370 and I love it so far. However, the one thing I miss from my old 350 is the

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Old 06-25-2009, 08:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, I recently purchased a base 370 and I love it so far. However, the one thing I miss from my old 350 is the LSD. I would love to swap an LSD in, but I know it will void the warranty. So I've been contemplating trading up for an LSD equipped model, but I know I would lose my shirt in such a deal.
I don't see how it would void your warranty at all, aside from the diff itself. Just go with a mechanical differential like what Mike @ DDM just installed and it will be 100 times better than the viscous one in the sport package anyway. Might not want the aggressive ratio that Mike used, but there are other ratio options. You also might be able to get someone's viscous unit fairly cheaply if they are upgrading and haven't toasted it yet.
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You're obviously not into modifying your car and that is your choice. But for those of us who are all of the components of the sport package will quickly be replaced with more capable hardware rendering it completely useless.
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yes, to each his own... this 370z when set up for the track will cost less than a cayman and be faster and IMO more fun to drive... I'm pretty confident in this assessment - my last car was a Boxster S that I tracked at least 1/month and I've already had my Z on the track with loads of P-cars... both great platforms, but z is a better value

OP, I have a carbonetic LSD installed and so far I couldn't be happier... it has carbon plates that result in very progressive engagement so it is more predictable and controllable IMO vs some of the other more aggressive diffs... as mentioned above, Mike at DDM is selling... might also check with Sharif at Forged Performance... good luck!
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You guys lost me at torsen.
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You guys lost me at torsen.
Even the concept of an differential of any type tends to confuse people... but technology is great like that. Makes jobs. hahahaha
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im very happy i did not get a base. i searched for over a month, put TONS of hours into finding a white, base, with sports 6 spd. couldnt do it! i really wanted white, and sports, and needed a stick shift (to deter the GF from driving it), so i settled for the only one i could find, touring sport with nav.

turns out, that is my favorite part of the car. coming from a truck with 420+ hp, that handles great, i found myself loving the leather, luxury, and nav.

not saying i would not be happy with the sports, but in my case it was meant to be!
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im very happy i did not get a base. i searched for over a month, put TONS of hours into finding a white, base, with sports 6 spd. couldnt do it! i really wanted white, and sports, and needed a stick shift (to deter the GF from driving it), so i settled for the only one i could find, touring sport with nav.

turns out, that is my favorite part of the car. coming from a truck with 420+ hp, that handles great, i found myself loving the leather, luxury, and nav.

not saying i would not be happy with the sports, but in my case it was meant to be!
I hereby declare that this man is a genius. But I am also assuming that this "GF" is mechanically inept (as in, she couldn't tell a tranny from an engine).

I've met only one girl who is very good with cars, but she's a tomboy and not the most attractive of girls. Unless the girl is God-given, the tradeoff is going to have to come somewhere...
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:33 AM   #9 (permalink)
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im very happy i did not get a base. i searched for over a month, put TONS of hours into finding a white, base, with sports 6 spd. couldnt do it! i really wanted white, and sports, and needed a stick shift (to deter the GF from driving it), so i settled for the only one i could find, touring sport with nav.

turns out, that is my favorite part of the car. coming from a truck with 420+ hp, that handles great, i found myself loving the leather, luxury, and nav.

not saying i would not be happy with the sports, but in my case it was meant to be!
That was my thinking too, but I got my 370z under invoice, else I'd have to pay extra to have them locate and pull one in to where the price would have been the same.

Now my significant other wants to drive it, which I'm sure she's 75% joking 25% not - still, it's the 25% that's getting on my nerves a bit.
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Ok. Everyone seems to be confused about the different LSDs. Here is a VERY quick LSD 101. Viscous is speed sensing. Torsen is torque sensing. Hence the compound word Tor-sen. Torsen like stated above is the more desirable unit out of the two. Reason being that viscous won't do anything until the wheel actually slips and creates a difference in the speed of the wheels - hence the term "speed sensing". Torsen because it is once again a torque sensing unit, it is able to transfer power before the slippage actually occurs. Torsen unit is designed to last the life of the car. VLSD that comes in the 370 is an ok unit for a street driver but for track purposes will not be sufficient. Then we can talk about 1, 1.5, 2 way units but that's for later. Hope this helps atleast a litto bit.
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I got the Sport because of the LSD. I was thinking of swapping my own in, but I don't want to void the warranty, not yet anyways
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I think the sport package is actually a very good deal. I agree it's a must for a sports car. You get big powerful brakes, lightweight large rims with sticky performance tires, front and rear spoilers (maybe aerodynamically useless, but hey they look good), and the synchrorev which reduces clutch wear and enables smooth downshifts. Heel and toe is good, but for average daily cruising in the streets can get exhausting and cumbersome.

Re: warranty. You never know what Nissan may argue. They can argue that the upgraded LSD increased torque stress in the drivetrain, causing the driveshaft U joint to snap, or the transmission to grind a gear, or the crankshaft to throw a bearing, etc..... Don't you remember the whole GT-R fiasco?
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Thanks for the responses so far guys. I wouldn't mind getting a torsen unit, but again, I'd be afraid that they would void my warranty.
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Thanks for the responses so far guys. I wouldn't mind getting a torsen unit, but again, I'd be afraid that they would void my warranty.
It really depends. Obviously, if you make a warranty claim cuz your power window is not working, or your AC compressor blew up, that's fine. If it's something drivetrain related, engine, transmission, drive shaft, differential, half shafts, etc... they might give you a hard time. Of course, this may only happen if for one reason or another they opened the differential cover and discovered the upgrade.
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bingo! how often are they going to open your diff cover ! and if you know that's going to happen, swap back.
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