People with sti annoy me?!!!

Originally Posted by Stino

Here is my take on this topic. There is no denying that the STI and Evo are fast and very good handling vehicles. As a matter of fact I test drove them both before making the decision to buy my 370Z. When comparing all three, I felt the 370Z edged them both in all around performance.

However, what you're about to read was the big deal breaker for me not buying the STI or Evo. After test driving the Evo and walking out of the showroom with my son, he pointed to an elderly lady (around 70-80) and said "Dad! ... look, that old lady just purchased the car we drove." I had to explain to him that the older lady purchased a Lancer not an Evo. He said "No ... I remember it read Lancer on the back of the car we drove." And that's when it dawned on me ... "No way in hell am I buying a suped-up four door granny car. The same goes for the STI.

I wanted a two seater sports car and nothing else ... period. When you compare the styling/looks of the Z to the STI or Evo, they just don't compare. The Z looks freaking awesome.

So ask yourself this question. Do you want a suped-up four door granny car, or the three year in a row DSPORT Magazine sports car of the year.*

The choice is pretty simple!

Originally Posted by Snakes709

As for the old granny 4 door car. Well this old granny car was picking on and beating up a 09 Viper ACR, 05 Viper (intake, headers, mid pipe, exhaust, throttle body and tune), 05 Corvette at the track. The only one in my run group that was a challange was a STi. Me and the driver of the STI were fighting for second place all day and only a tenth of a second between our lap times.

Originally Posted by Snakes709

thats all matter of opinion. When i owned a Cobalt SS/SC, my girlfriend and I went to look at a 2008 EvoX. The big turn off for me was it had 4 doors. I wanted a coupe 2 door. Then traded the Cobalt in for a 370z, then traded that in for my SRT-10. Then traded the SRT-10 in for my 2011 EvoX. I recently blew the engine in my evo and while im rebuilding it i picked up a 03 cavalier for $600. God damn it pisses me off not having 4 doors. It's such a pain in the *** having to either put my seats forward for someone to sit in the back or put **** in the trunk instead of just tossing it in the back seats.

As for the old granny 4 door car. Well this old granny car was picking on and beating up a 09 Viper ACR, 05 Viper (intake, headers, mid pipe, exhaust, throttle body and tune), 05 Corvette at the track. The only one in my run group that was a challange was a STi. Me and the driver of the STI were fighting for second place all day and only a tenth of a second between our lap times.

EvoX Time Attack #1 - YouTube

423hp EvoX GSR vs. 05 Viper - Time Attack - YouTube

imo, the EvoX is better then the 370z, and i've owned both and tracked both. The EvoX is better on and off the truck, end of story...lol.

Originally Posted by Davey

Must have been raining.

Originally Posted by Kingbaby

How many miles before that happen?

Originally Posted by Snakes709

Nope, dry as a bone. Think it was about 25*C outside that day.

Originally Posted by Snakes709

thats all matter of opinion. When i owned a Cobalt SS/SC, my girlfriend and I went to look at a 2008 EvoX. The big turn off for me was it had 4 doors. I wanted a coupe 2 door. Then traded the Cobalt in for a 370z, then traded that in for my SRT-10. Then traded the SRT-10 in for my 2011 EvoX. I recently blew the engine in my evo and while im rebuilding it i picked up a 03 cavalier for $600. God damn it pisses me off not having 4 doors. It's such a pain in the *** having to either put my seats forward for someone to sit in the back or put **** in the trunk instead of just tossing it in the back seats.

As for the old granny 4 door car. Well this old granny car was picking on and beating up a 09 Viper ACR, 05 Viper (intake, headers, mid pipe, exhaust, throttle body and tune), 05 Corvette at the track. The only one in my run group that was a challange was a STi. Me and the driver of the STI were fighting for second place all day and only a tenth of a second between our lap times.

EvoX Time Attack #1 - YouTube

423hp EvoX GSR vs. 05 Viper - Time Attack - YouTube

imo, the EvoX is better then the 370z, and i've owned both and tracked both. The EvoX is better on and off the truck, end of story...lol.

Originally Posted by cossie1600

I owned an EVO too, it is a toss up with the Z stock to stock and that is simply because the EVO comes with better tires stock. EVO has shorter gearings and more torque, but it lacks the straight line speed and balance.

Do you really think your car is faster than a Viper? You might be faster, but not the car.

Also I have a better chance of seeing a chupacabra than a stock evo anyway, most have intake/exhaust and the whole works with it.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

now which car is supposed to be faster than a viper????

Originally Posted by Snakes709

thats all matter of opinion. When i owned a Cobalt SS/SC, my girlfriend and I went to look at a 2008 EvoX. The big turn off for me was it had 4 doors. I wanted a coupe 2 door. Then traded the Cobalt in for a 370z, then traded that in for my SRT-10. Then traded the SRT-10 in for my 2011 EvoX. I recently blew the engine in my evo and while im rebuilding it i picked up a 03 cavalier for $600. God damn it pisses me off not having 4 doors. It's such a pain in the *** having to either put my seats forward for someone to sit in the back or put **** in the trunk instead of just tossing it in the back seats.

As for the old granny 4 door car. Well this old granny car was picking on and beating up a 09 Viper ACR, 05 Viper (intake, headers, mid pipe, exhaust, throttle body and tune), 05 Corvette at the track. The only one in my run group that was a challange was a STi. Me and the driver of the STI were fighting for second place all day and only a tenth of a second between our lap times.

EvoX Time Attack #1 - YouTube

423hp EvoX GSR vs. 05 Viper - Time Attack - YouTube

imo, the EvoX is better then the 370z, and i've owned both and tracked both. The EvoX is better on and off the truck, end of story...lol.

Originally Posted by Davey

Yeah, that was kind of a joke, you know, AWD = pray for rain.

I will say this, though, your results at an event like that vs. cars running on street tires with who knows who driving them or how hard they are pushing aren't really a valid measurement of anything other than how much your own driving improved over the course of several events.

Originally Posted by cossie1600

I owned an EVO too, it is a toss up with the Z stock to stock and that is simply because the EVO comes with better tires stock. EVO has shorter gearings and more torque, but it lacks the straight line speed and balance.

Do you really think your car is faster than a Viper? You might be faster, but not the car.

Also I have a better chance of seeing a chupacabra than a stock evo anyway, most have intake/exhaust and the whole works with it.

Originally Posted by Snakes709

I'm not downing the 370z by any means.

Originally Posted by Snakes709

To make everyone happy, ill compair my EvoX vs my 370z that i had at the same track, stock for stock. Yes the Evo is AWD so ill leave out how it handled around turns. First of all the best thing about the evo...it doesnt over heat!!. We would do 7 laps at the track, lap 4 with the 370z i would go into limp mode...enough said on that.

Brakes.... i can come into a turn a hell of alot faster and brake later (but yet still hit the apex) with the Evo. The 370z i had no confidence in the brakes at all.

The only part that the 370z beat the Evo on the track imo was straight line. Which doesnt mean ****, hence why i beat 2 vipers that would pull away from me on the rear stretch but i would quickly catch up and pass with braking later and taking turns faster.

I'm not downing the 370z by any means. But imo the EvoX is better then 370z on and off the track. For off the track it has less blind spots then the Z, the clutch engagements are alot smoother, it has 4 doors and alot more space.

Originally Posted by MJB

You sure about that? On the Evo forums you make it sound like the 370z is the worst sports car ever made.

Originally Posted by NitrousZ34

You traded in a srt-10 for an evo?????

Originally Posted by cossie1600

Unless the EVO X is a world better than a the EVO IX, I am not sure if my datalogger agrees with you.



Red = EVO IV stock with Ferrodo pads & OE tires; Blue = 370z stock with pads & RE11.

You are right I need an oil cooler to do track days, but my car is still cheaper than the EVO new vs new with the oil cooler.

The Z's brakes are bigger than the EVO and it is lighter, how can an EVO stop better? I understand if you had the OEM tires since they are worse than the EVO stock.

Your car doesn't handle better than a Viper (well assuming it has decent tires). The other driver was simply driving too slow. You really should be proud of yourself, not the car. The last GT-R i saw at the track only ran 1.5 sec slower than me, I know full well it wasn't the car. Have realistic expectations.

Originally Posted by Snakes709

thats all matter of opinion. When i owned a Cobalt SS/SC, my girlfriend and I went to look at a 2008 EvoX. The big turn off for me was it had 4 doors. I wanted a coupe 2 door. Then traded the Cobalt in for a 370z, then traded that in for my SRT-10. Then traded the SRT-10 in for my 2011 EvoX. I recently blew the engine in my evo and while im rebuilding it i picked up a 03 cavalier for $600. God damn it pisses me off not having 4 doors. It's such a pain in the *** having to either put my seats forward for someone to sit in the back or put **** in the trunk instead of just tossing it in the back seats.

As for the old granny 4 door car. Well this old granny car was picking on and beating up a 09 Viper ACR, 05 Viper (intake, headers, mid pipe, exhaust, throttle body and tune), 05 Corvette at the track. The only one in my run group that was a challange was a STi. Me and the driver of the STI were fighting for second place all day and only a tenth of a second between our lap times.

EvoX Time Attack #1 - YouTube

423hp EvoX GSR vs. 05 Viper - Time Attack - YouTube

imo, the EvoX is better then the 370z, and i've owned both and tracked both. The EvoX is better on and off the truck, end of story...lol.