Shifting into gear while moving???

kenchan · 07-27-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hadokenuh

Lol I'd like to take turns at 40+mph if possible

But yeah, I learned to drive MT on this car so there are lots of things I still need to learn.

watch best motoring videos on youtube and you will see how the race car drivers are setting up for the turn. they have camera shots of tach and feet (and audio) so it should give you an idea wat you should be doing.

if you have SRM, it's very easy to do, obviously, but even if you dont it's not too difficult to rev-match while braking if you practice. GL.

Davey · 07-27-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hadokenuh

So what would be the best way? Turn, then downshift to 2nd and accelerate?

This is what I usually do on sharp turns. The thing I don't like about it is I can't accelerate right away after that.

No, you downshift to the correct gear for the speed you will take the turn at before you get to the turn... But not too far before the turn.

Davey · 07-27-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

watch best motoring videos on youtube and you will see how the race car drivers are setting up for the turn. they have camera shots of tach and feet (and audio) so it should give you an idea wat you should be doing.

if you have SRM, it's very easy to do, obviously, but even if you dont it's not too difficult to rev-match while braking if you practice. GL.

But never double-clutch. That's for pre-1940's trucks.

Footloose301 · 07-27-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

brake and rev-match downshift to 2nd while straight (setting up for the turn), turn with partial throttle open, once you're through of the apex, open it up.

guys, you are scaring me... you dont know how to drive MT and bought a sports car?!!!

Why does my z stall when I come to a stop. I have to keep pressing the clutch and starting the car at every red light.

Davey · 07-27-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301

Why does my z stall when I come to a stop. I have to keep pressing the clutch and starting the car at every red light.

You would think for $40,000 they would keep the car from stalling like that, right?

Jsolo · 07-27-2012, 08:11 PM

If you're letting the clutch out after you've already turned (or through the turn), it helps to blip the throttle slightly to get the rpm near where they should be. Otherwise being in the correct gear before the turn is a good idea too.

ChrisSlicks · 07-27-2012, 09:01 PM

Teach yourself heal-toe so that you can blip the throttle while braking and downshifting. It will go into 3rd easily, probably no need for 2nd unless the corner is tight or you're really looking to rocket through.

Tward · 07-30-2012, 08:51 AM

How are you guys heal toeing with our car. All the videos i have seen have a different gas pedal set up. I am only 19, first manual car, so trying to learn everything the right way so its not difficult to break a bad habbit

Tward · 07-30-2012, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey

You would think for $40,000 they would keep the car from stalling like that, right?

If you guys dont want to help us out dont bother posting anything. Trying to learn the best way to shift a manual car, most 19 year olds these days dont even know what a manual car is. Just looking for help to be a better driver.

ChrisSlicks · 07-30-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tward

How are you guys heal toeing with our car. All the videos i have seen have a different gas pedal set up. I am only 19, first manual car, so trying to learn everything the right way so its not difficult to break a bad habbit

The easiest way in this car and most modern cars: brake with your foot mostly on the right hand side of the brake pedal, then while still applying pressure to the brakes, roll the ankle so the side of your foot blips the throttle as you down shift.

The hard part is 2 things (that will take lots of practice), keeping the brake pressure even, and getting the correct target RPM. The latter isn't critical, but the closer you are the smoother it will be. Also your clutch action will be much faster, you can essentially treat the clutch as an on-off switch.

Practice by coming down sequentially through the gears while braking from moderate speed, and once you've mastered that you can try skipping gears.

You can also practice your throttle modulation by downshifting while travelling at constant speed, e.g. cruise along at 55-60 and do a blip downshift from 5th to 4th and from 4th to 3rd. Once you get it right it should feel completely smooth and seamless.

kenchan · 07-30-2012, 09:37 AM

^^ wat chris said. for these organ pedals (hinged at bottom) just roll your right foot while braking and blip.

i do the same on my G which has standard pedals (hinged at top) but since she's my dd i dont need to apply so much braking when i blip. unless i need to mash the brake do i actually swing my heel around to do heel and toe.

Davey · 07-30-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tward

If you guys dont want to help us out dont bother posting anything.

I did post several replies with good info in them.

Mt Tam I am · 07-30-2012, 02:15 PM

Tward

To your question. This is the answer. Practice makes perfect.

also what does S stand for if not the sports package (you have touring)? 09 Nissan 370z S M6

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Originally Posted by Tward

If you guys dont want to help us out dont bother posting anything. Trying to learn the best way to shift a manual car, most 19 year olds these days dont even know what a manual car is. Just looking for help to be a better driver.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

The easiest way in this car and most modern cars: brake with your foot mostly on the right hand side of the brake pedal, then while still applying pressure to the brakes, roll the ankle so the side of your foot blips the throttle as you down shift.

The hard part is 2 things (that will take lots of practice), keeping the brake pressure even, and getting the correct target RPM. The latter isn't critical, but the closer you are the smoother it will be. Also your clutch action will be much faster, you can essentially treat the clutch as an on-off switch.

Practice by coming down sequentially through the gears while braking from moderate speed, and once you've mastered that you can try skipping gears.

You can also practice your throttle modulation by downshifting while travelling at constant speed, e.g. cruise along at 55-60 and do a blip downshift from 5th to 4th and from 4th to 3rd. Once you get it right it should feel completely smooth and seamless.

kenchan · 07-30-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

also what does S stand for if not the sports package (you have touring)? 09 Nissan 370z S M6

good observation and question indeed!

what does that "S" stand for?

ChrisSlicks · 07-30-2012, 02:42 PM

I think the S stands for S-tune body kit. By looking at his picks he has a base, so no S-mode.

07-27-2012, 09:01 PM	#37 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Teach yourself heal-toe so that you can blip the throttle while braking and downshifting. It will go into 3rd easily, probably no need for 2nd unless the corner is tight or you're really looking to rocket through. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

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Tward Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: North Little Rock, AR Posts: 318 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z BS M6 Rep Power: 14	How are you guys heal toeing with our car. All the videos i have seen have a different gas pedal set up. I am only 19, first manual car, so trying to learn everything the right way so its not difficult to break a bad habbit __________________ Nismo S - Tune Body Kit/ UAM Fenders / Fast Intentions CBE 12/ Stillen CAI/ PWD JDM Shift Knob/BlueBat Vinyl' R.I.P Garrett Uekman

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ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	I think the S stands for S-tune body kit. By looking at his picks he has a base, so no S-mode. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

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Jsolo Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: chicago Posts: 783 Drives: '12 G37 6MT Rep Power: 14	If you're letting the clutch out after you've already turned (or through the turn), it helps to blip the throttle slightly to get the rpm near where they should be. Otherwise being in the correct gear before the turn is a good idea too.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	^^ wat chris said. for these organ pedals (hinged at bottom) just roll your right foot while braking and blip. i do the same on my G which has standard pedals (hinged at top) but since she's my dd i dont need to apply so much braking when i blip. unless i need to mash the brake do i actually swing my heel around to do heel and toe.