Spoiler & Scoop

canes7 · 04-28-2012, 03:53 PM

Funny you should ask. The dealer I bought my car from never installed the front air deflectors. They left all three in the hatch. Now at 6k mi. I had the new dealership I deal with install them at the last oil change. I immediately felt a difference on the highway. It's hard to explain, maybe more smooth since less air goes under the car.

troubadour · 04-28-2012, 04:06 PM

I'm driving a Touring Coupe/Sports. I did note the link talking about the Nizmo, and the 18 lbs of downforce at 75 MPH. But my Touring Coupe spoiler is probably really minimal in its effect (my guess at this point).

I'd like to just remove the spoiler and the front deflectors (or whatever they are that hits driveways) and just didn't want to create a destabilizing situation of any consequence. On one hand I'll hardly drive at speeds where I suspect they have an effect - depending on what effect there is to begin with - and on the other hand I did get in the 100 MPH range driving it home from out of state after the purchase (you can do that and still stay under the 4000 RPM break-in limit with no trouble at all). But I probably won't be driving in that speed range in the future; it was mostly a "try it out a little" thing.

And if they don't even go into effect until around 100 MPH - or if the stuff I have is mostly cosmetic or mild enought that it makes little real difference - then I probably would be happy just removing them. (I know there are those who would never take off the rear spoiler on a "looks" basis but for me I'd actually prefer not having it.)

So if I can determine no ill effects, or neglible effects in the 100 MPH or less range, that's what I'm trying to figure out

Drex · 04-28-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by troubadour

I'm driving a Touring Coupe/Sports. I did note the link talking about the Nizmo, and the 18 lbs of downforce at 75 MPH. But my Touring Coupe spoiler is probably really minimal in its effect (my guess at this point).

I'd like to just remove the spoiler and the front deflectors (or whatever they are that hits driveways) and just didn't want to create a destabilizing situation of any consequence. On one hand I'll hardly drive at speeds where I suspect they have an effect - depending on what effect there is to begin with - and on the other hand I did get in the 100 MPH range driving it home from out of state after the purchase (you can do that and still stay under the 4000 RPM break-in limit with no trouble at all). But I probably won't be driving in that speed range in the future; it was mostly a "try it out a little" thing.

And if they don't even go into effect until around 100 MPH - or if the stuff I have is mostly cosmetic or mild enought that it makes little real difference - then I probably would be happy just removing them. (I know there are those who would never take off the rear spoiler on a "looks" basis but for me I'd actually prefer not having it.)

So if I can determine no ill effects, or neglible effects in the 100 MPH or less range, that's what I'm trying to figure out

im pretty sure if you remove the sport spoiler there will be holes in the trunk you need to fill.

PaulZ370 · 04-28-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by troubadour

I'm driving a Touring Coupe/Sports. I did note the link talking about the Nizmo, and the 18 lbs of downforce at 75 MPH. But my Touring Coupe spoiler is probably really minimal in its effect (my guess at this point).

I'd like to just remove the spoiler and the front deflectors (or whatever they are that hits driveways) and just didn't want to create a destabilizing situation of any consequence. On one hand I'll hardly drive at speeds where I suspect they have an effect - depending on what effect there is to begin with - and on the other hand I did get in the 100 MPH range driving it home from out of state after the purchase (you can do that and still stay under the 4000 RPM break-in limit with no trouble at all). But I probably won't be driving in that speed range in the future; it was mostly a "try it out a little" thing.

And if they don't even go into effect until around 100 MPH - or if the stuff I have is mostly cosmetic or mild enought that it makes little real difference - then I probably would be happy just removing them. (I know there are those who would never take off the rear spoiler on a "looks" basis but for me I'd actually prefer not having it.)

So if I can determine no ill effects, or neglible effects in the 100 MPH or less range, that's what I'm trying to figure out

As I stated before, this is not cosmetic. The aerodynamic package on the touring model keeps the car from "lifting" due to air flow under the carriage. Nissan calls this "ZERO LIFT", so the car would not float at high speed and lose traction with the road. DO NOT take those spoilers off for your safety (and those driving around you) at high speed.

bdavis89 · 04-28-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370

DO NOT take those spoilers off for your safety (and those driving around you) at high speed.

Nissan sells the base model without them, so it hardly has anything to do with safety. It just provides for some extra performance at higher speeds. OP you'd be fine without them, although I think the car looks like garbage without the spoiler, to each his own.

theboydiddy · 04-28-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89

Nissan sells the base model without them, so it hardly has anything to do with safety. It just provides for some extra performance at higher speeds. OP you'd be fine without them, although I think the car looks like garbage without the spoiler, to each his own.

MacLean · 04-28-2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89

Nissan sells the base model without them, so it hardly has anything to do with safety. It just provides for some extra performance at higher speeds. OP you'd be fine without them, although I think the car looks like garbage without the spoiler, to each his own.

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Originally Posted by theboydiddy

+2.........

Japanjay · 05-01-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89

Nissan sells the base model without them, so it hardly has anything to do with safety. It just provides for some extra performance at higher speeds. OP you'd be fine without them, although I think the car looks like garbage without the spoiler, to each his own.

Have to agree with the garbage look without it. X3

kenchan · 04-28-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by canes7

Funny you should ask. The dealer I bought my car from never installed the front air deflectors. They left all three in the hatch. Now at 6k mi. I had the new dealership I deal with install them at the last oil change. I immediately felt a difference on the highway. It's hard to explain, maybe more smooth since less air goes under the car.

or maybe they just inflated the tires to the correct psi and you're feeling that...(?)

canes7 · 04-29-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

or maybe they just inflated the tires to the correct psi and you're feeling that...(?)

I'm still waiting for my Obama sponsored tire guage and tune-up kit. They said they'd deliver after the 2008 elections but so far there has been no delivery on their promises, not even a tracking number. So I have no way of verifying, or denying, this assertion.

MacLean · 04-29-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by canes7

I'm still waiting for my Obama sponsored tire guage and tune-up kit. They said they'd deliver after the 2008 elections but so far there has been no delivery on their promises, not even a tracking number. So I have no way of verifying, or denying, this assertion.

Well the whole problem is Obama. You might not get it.

theboydiddy · 04-28-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by canes7

Funny you should ask. The dealer I bought my car from never installed the front air deflectors. They left all three in the hatch. Now at 6k mi. I had the new dealership I deal with install them at the last oil change. I immediately felt a difference on the highway. It's hard to explain, maybe more smooth since less air goes under the car.

Honestly I feel the same thing. My boy that has one without the spoiler drove mine and said something similar to what you just said as well.
I actually feel like there's something pushing down on the back of my Z with the spoiler.

04-28-2012, 04:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
troubadour Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 67 Drives: 2012 Coupe/Trg/Sprts Rep Power: 15	I'm driving a Touring Coupe/Sports. I did note the link talking about the Nizmo, and the 18 lbs of downforce at 75 MPH. But my Touring Coupe spoiler is probably really minimal in its effect (my guess at this point). I'd like to just remove the spoiler and the front deflectors (or whatever they are that hits driveways) and just didn't want to create a destabilizing situation of any consequence. On one hand I'll hardly drive at speeds where I suspect they have an effect - depending on what effect there is to begin with - and on the other hand I did get in the 100 MPH range driving it home from out of state after the purchase (you can do that and still stay under the 4000 RPM break-in limit with no trouble at all). But I probably won't be driving in that speed range in the future; it was mostly a "try it out a little" thing. And if they don't even go into effect until around 100 MPH - or if the stuff I have is mostly cosmetic or mild enought that it makes little real difference - then I probably would be happy just removing them. (I know there are those who would never take off the rear spoiler on a "looks" basis but for me I'd actually prefer not having it.) So if I can determine no ill effects, or neglible effects in the 100 MPH or less range, that's what I'm trying to figure out Last edited by troubadour; 04-28-2012 at 04:10 PM.

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04-28-2012, 03:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
canes7 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: NC Posts: 129 Drives: '11 BC/Tour/Spt/7at Rep Power: 15	Funny you should ask. The dealer I bought my car from never installed the front air deflectors. They left all three in the hatch. Now at 6k mi. I had the new dealership I deal with install them at the last oil change. I immediately felt a difference on the highway. It's hard to explain, maybe more smooth since less air goes under the car.