Nissan 370Z Forum  

regular gas + octane booster= ? RON

Originally Posted by MyZ4U2C Dealers are cheap and pinch every cent. Most dealers fill the vehicle with regular on new car fill ups +1..... Oh I completely agree with you.

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Like Tree3Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-19-2012, 08:11 PM   #46 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MacLean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,589
Drives: '12 GM Nismo # 0445
Rep Power: 16
MacLean has a spectacular aura aboutMacLean has a spectacular aura aboutMacLean has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MyZ4U2C View Post
Dealers are cheap and pinch every cent. Most dealers fill the vehicle with regular on new car fill ups
+1..... Oh I completely agree with you. When I went to test drive the Nismo for the first time we had to stop & get some gas b/c it just got off of the truck a couple days ago. Well the sales guy only put 3-4 gallons of regular gas in it & was going to try to get reimbursed for it.

The higher the octane the slower it burns & the lower the octane the faster it burns.
MacLean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2012, 08:21 PM   #47 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jordo!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: nirvana
Posts: 6,394
Drives: 2023 NATM
Rep Power: 417
Jordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MyZ4U2C View Post
Dealers are cheap and pinch every cent. Most dealers fill the vehicle with regular on new car fill ups and will even have the lot techs who fill it up watch the fill up till the gauge points to the F indicator and save a gallon or so....I would recommend a octane booster at purchase of a new car at least.
Uh, a bottle of octane booster isn't going to do much, which is the whole point.

You're better off demanding to accompany them on the journey to the gas pump if you are that worried.

Or tell them not to bother filling it up -- you'll do that.

Failing that, if you are that concerned, drive around at fairly low revs, putting very little load on the engine (less load means less torque produced, means less likely to autoignite -- although it is certainly possible to knock even at idle), get through a 1/4 or 1/2 tank of gas and then top off with high test.

Or break out the siphon hose and start sucking

The message I'm getting from people on here is that they don't trust car dealers as far as they can throw them (fair enough) but they DO trust snake oil salesmen selling unregulated, mystery fuel additives (why?).
__________________
Enjoy it. Destroy it.

Last edited by Jordo!; 04-20-2012 at 12:40 AM.
Jordo! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2012, 08:35 PM   #48 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
MyZ4U2C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 448
Drives: 40th Z #51, 15 FozXT
Rep Power: 554
MyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond reputeMyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond reputeMyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond reputeMyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond reputeMyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond reputeMyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond reputeMyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond reputeMyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond reputeMyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond reputeMyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond reputeMyZ4U2C has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordo! View Post
Uh, a bottle of octane booster isn't going to do much, which is the whole point.

You're better off demanding to accompany them on the journey to the gas pump if you are that worried.

Or tell them not to bother filling it up -- you'll do that.

Failing that, if you are that concerned, drive around at fairly low revs, putting very little load on the engine (less load means less torque produced, means less likely to autoignite -- although it is certainly possible to knock even at idle), get through a 1/4 or 1/2 tank of gas and then top off with high test.

Or break out the siphon house and start sucking

The message I'm getting from people on here is that they don't trust car dealers as far as they can throw them (fair enough) but they DO trust snake oil salesmen selling unregulated, mystery fuel additives (why?).

I was just ranting about the dealers filling up with regular so others would know and figured since you questioned the dealers method was a good post to quote....but if I ever do buy a new car I might demand premium if not a gas card lol

As far as the difference a booster makes I am not questioning other than if I know regular was used I hope it helps, recently got my Z shipped and the shipping company put over 100 unexplained miles on the car and I filled it up and added a booster... good news is car drives great
MyZ4U2C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2012, 08:35 PM   #49 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MacLean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,589
Drives: '12 GM Nismo # 0445
Rep Power: 16
MacLean has a spectacular aura aboutMacLean has a spectacular aura aboutMacLean has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordo! View Post
The message I'm getting from people on here is that they don't trust car dealers as far as they can throw them (fair enough) but they DO trust snake oil salesmen selling unregulated, mystery fuel additives (why?).
+1....... I will agree that the SOB will put regular gas in the tanks instead of premium. What is this "snake oil salesmen selling unregulated, mystery fuel additives?" I have never heard this before & could someone please elaborate on this for me.
MacLean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2012, 12:46 AM   #50 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jordo!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: nirvana
Posts: 6,394
Drives: 2023 NATM
Rep Power: 417
Jordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cgmg21 View Post
+1....... I will agree that the SOB will put regular gas in the tanks instead of premium. What is this "snake oil salesmen selling unregulated, mystery fuel additives?" I have never heard this before & could someone please elaborate on this for me.
I'm being facetious -- I mean that the octane boosters are not regulated in any way shape or form, so use at own risk.

That said, I wouldn't count on them to do anything especially good OR bad (other than drain your wallet a bit).

Seriously, if anyone here buys their new Z and thinks the dealer topped it off with regular, the best thing you can do is drive around gently (i.e., no flooring it, no redlining it -- not a great idea if breaking in a new engine anyway...), burn through 1/4 to 1/2 a tank, and then top off with high octane.

Hell, if you can find it, some Sunocos have 100 AKI at the pump. Half a tank of that plus regular will get you where you need to be (although I believe fuel blending winds up being not quite that simple in terms of effective octane...).

That's a much better way to go than adding a couple bottle of octane booster, crossing your fingers, and driving however you would normally.

Oh, and lookie what I found... http://www.fueltechexperts.com/2008/...which-is-best/

Remarkably, a few of them added a point or two of RON (although, keep in mind that AKI is the average of RON+MON... actually, a good rule of thumb on RON to AKI conversions is RON*.95=~AKI value -- example, our car requires 96 RON or 91 AKI, 96*.95 = 91.2), most added less than a point.

Still not going to be very helpful on a tank of 87. Siphon or gently use up, top off with high test. Done.
__________________
Enjoy it. Destroy it.

Last edited by Jordo!; 04-20-2012 at 01:07 AM.
Jordo! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 03:01 AM   #51 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Jamesb1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 11
Drives: Black 370z
Rep Power: 12
Jamesb1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Find a gas station that sells 100 octane race fuel. They are actually quite common. I tried octane booster and had no results. If you mix half race fuel and half 91 octane you get 95.5 octane. That seems to be the sweet spot for my 370z. I tried pure 100 octane but it didn't run as good as 95.5. There are many octane calculators online. You can mix 91 and 100 to achieve whatever octane you want.
Jamesb1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 06:13 AM   #52 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Davey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 3,766
Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT
Rep Power: 117171
Davey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond reputeDavey has a reputation beyond repute
Default



Holy necro-bump, Jamesb1.

Welcome to the forums?
kenchan likes this.
Davey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 08:39 AM   #53 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: N/A
Posts: 76,801
Drives: N/A
Rep Power: 141520
kenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Wowzers.. wat was the q again?..lol
kenchan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Regular Gas? Cypress Nissan 370Z General Discussions 51 03-24-2013 05:36 PM
Regular Gasoline Lobo1114 Nissan 370Z Warranty / Scheduled Maintenance / Servicing / Repairs 10 01-18-2012 02:04 PM
E10 94 octane vs. Shell V-Power 91 octane ethanol-free semtex Engine & Drivetrain 15 09-16-2011 10:19 PM
Booster seat RiCharlie Nissan 370Z General Discussions 5 06-09-2011 07:04 PM
WTB Sprint booster for MT Kastley85891 Wanted 0 04-12-2011 05:42 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2