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Pintsize725 05-10-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 1714061)
Did you check your coworker's bike for chicken strips?

He didn't ride it in today.

LunaZ 05-10-2012 12:18 PM

Then he's definitely not pushing it hard enough.

alcheng 05-10-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1714024)
hey there pint - well, ive been modding cars for a while now and i personally think the Z does NOT need suspension mods for street use, but that's just me. :p ride height is fine, normal wheel gap is there but it's not gaping. it's normal for sport cars for street, just get the right set of wheels with the right offsets and you're fine. with that said, im not going to go through another hassle of setting up the car just to find out, stock setup is more fluid and better suited for street.


:iagree: That's the first thing I told Ms.Pintsize725 also.

When I lowered the bimmer, all the camber and toe troubles I got afterwards was pain in the neck. And I think the OEM suspension is good enough for DD/street use. :tup:

m4a1mustang 05-10-2012 12:33 PM

No car needs suspension work for street use.

But, drive a Z on stock dampers and then drive one on Konis... big difference. They are just better.

Alchemy 05-10-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1714055)
Hmm I'll need more opinions on the suspension mods then.

I have the stuff for the visibility fix in the car. Just haven't felt up to messing with it. Been really tired and lots of headaches lately.

Stock suspension is good dont get me wrong. If you decide to not do springs or dampers I would at least do sways. They will stiffen it up without changing the actual dampening or height properties of the car. Sways are a great bang for buck mod.

Alchemy 05-10-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 1714071)
Then he's definitely not pushing it hard enough.

:bowrofl:

kenchan 05-10-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1714055)
Hmm I'll need more opinions on the suspension mods then.

I have the stuff for the visibility fix in the car. Just haven't felt up to messing with it. Been really tired and lots of headaches lately.

hummm...hope you feel better, pint! :tup:

as for suspension mods... if you're happy with how the car drives i would just leave it alone. it's like opening up a can of worms. unless you know how to setup a car and willing to mess with it, 99% of the time people will make their cars handle worse but claim it is better just because it feels stiffer and something changed.

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 1714080)
:iagree: That's the first thing I told Ms.Pintsize725 also.

When I lowered the bimmer, all the camber and toe troubles I got afterwards was pain in the neck. And I think the OEM suspension is good enough for DD/street use. :tup:

yep. and im a very picky guy too when it comes to cars. somethings are better left alone, unless one is willing to put the effort to make it actually better. i think there is room for improvement on the Z, but it's not worth the sideeffects for me. my next step is to try the PSS and see where it takes me. RE050 was on the choppy side, DW is on the smooth/soft side. im hoping the PSS lands me in the middle. :tup:

m4a1mustang 05-10-2012 12:52 PM

Ken, PSS are stiff but smooth. Super grippy but quiet. Soft compound but long lasting.

kenchan 05-10-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1714101)
Stock suspension is good dont get me wrong. If you decide to not do springs or dampers I would at least do sways. They will stiffen it up without changing the actual dampening or height properties of the car. Sways are a great bang for buck mod.

that's a good suggestion if you drive in tight corners. for my driving i dont think the car needs sways either. :)

i always suggest learn the limit of the car where it starts to power drift. i think most people are unsure when the car starts to slide and kick out so they are scared (or nervous) of the sway of the car. they want the obvious YES i am not sliding, YES i am sliding feedback.

one needs to be patient when the car sways and feel the car at its breaking point, imagine the yaw angle in one's head and counter steer a just enough to make the car point in the right direction. once you get the hang of it i dont think the sway will bother you. it does not bother me at all actually.

the reason why i run swaybars on my G is because of the progressive-rate spring prokits. the turn-in response was muffled so wanted the car to turn in the direction i pointed it quicker. with the simultaneous damp adjustment of the d-specs i was able to get a good medium of turn in and bump damping.

with the koni's thats the one thing i dont like. it's rebound control only so you're stuck with the bound they give you. and that is one reason why im not rushing to get them. :hello:

kenchan 05-10-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1714118)
Ken, PSS are stiff but smooth. Super grippy but quiet. Soft compound but long lasting.

:tup: thanks, yah all the reading has been pointing that direction so i am really excited to get them in the future. :excited:

m4a1mustang 05-10-2012 01:06 PM

Sway bars are very personal. Some like it stiff some like it soft. ;)

onzedge 05-10-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1714140)
Sway bars are very personal. Some like it stiff some like it soft. ;)

ummmm.....

bbigby64 05-10-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1714055)
Hmm I'll need more opinions on the suspension mods then.

I have the stuff for the visibility fix in the car. Just haven't felt up to messing with it. Been really tired and lots of headaches lately.

Hope that you feel better, Pint. Make sure that you get enough sleep.

kenchan 05-10-2012 01:09 PM

humm... maybe cut down on sugar intake? :confused:

Pintsize725 05-10-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1714101)
Stock suspension is good dont get me wrong. If you decide to not do springs or dampers I would at least do sways. They will stiffen it up without changing the actual dampening or height properties of the car. Sways are a great bang for buck mod.

I think I still want to do the full set up. Realistically, how much of a pain is it going to be to maintain though?

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Originally Posted by bbigby64 (Post 1714145)
Hope that you feel better, Pint. Make sure that you get enough sleep.

I try, having scoliosis doesn't help with sleeping. Might have sleep apnea as well.

m4a1mustang 05-10-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1714141)
ummmm.....

:rofl2:

onzedge 05-10-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1714153)
I think I still want to do the full set up. Realistically, how much of a pain is it going to be to maintain though?



I try, having scoliosis doesn't help with sleeping. Might have sleep apnea as well.

It is not a pain at all. If you are thinking Koni/Swift then once you get the Konis adjusted for your driving style, there is no more maintenance than you would have with an OEM setup.

m4a1mustang 05-10-2012 01:18 PM

Swifts + Konis + Sways would be easy to maintain. The only thing I can think of is periodically checking to make sure the sway bar bushings are properly greased.

On the 5.0 I am running a watts link which uses spherical rod-ends. I have to grease them every 2-4 weeks or so otherwise they squeak. Same with my lower control arms. Oh well... labor of love. :icon17:

Also, happy to announce I am ahead of schedule with this crap at work. I should have everything done by tomorrow afternoon and can leave for ZDayZ stress free, only to jump back into it on the 22nd. :)

kenchan 05-10-2012 01:21 PM

yah, spring, damper, sways are pretty easy to maintain once it's all set up. ive had endlinks fail and some springs sag (TEIN) in the past but swifts are higher-end than TEIN and linear rate so shouldn't be a problem.

i read one post in the suspension section about a leaking koni yellow. might want to follow that to see how the situation is resolved with the warranty replacement etc.

yellows are notorious for having bad lots from time to time. must be a european thing. :confused:

kenchan 05-10-2012 01:24 PM

here's the thread on the leaking one. another area to check is on the shell casing. pull up boot and see.

http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...ml#post1713840

Pintsize725 05-10-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1714169)
It is not a pain at all. If you are thinking Koni/Swift then once you get the Konis adjusted for your driving style, there is no more maintenance than you would have with an OEM setup.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1714174)
Swifts + Konis + Sways would be easy to maintain. The only thing I can think of is periodically checking to make sure the sway bar bushings are properly greased.

On the 5.0 I am running a watts link which uses spherical rod-ends. I have to grease them every 2-4 weeks or so otherwise they squeak. Same with my lower control arms. Oh well... labor of love. :icon17:

Also, happy to announce I am ahead of schedule with this crap at work. I should have everything done by tomorrow afternoon and can leave for ZDayZ stress free, only to jump back into it on the 22nd. :)

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1714179)
yah, spring, damper, sways are pretty easy to maintain once it's all set up. ive had endlinks fail and some springs sag (TEIN) in the past but swifts are higher-end than TEIN and linear rate so shouldn't be a problem.

i read one post in the suspension section about a leaking koni yellow. might want to follow that to see how the situation is resolved with the warranty replacement etc.

yellows are notorious for having bad lots from time to time. must be a european thing. :confused:

Then it sounds like I'm doing it (as soon as I can)! I don't mind having to tweak something every now and then, as long as it isn't too frequent. I did read about the leaking Koni issue, will definitely keep my eyes open for it.

Now if only FBNISSAN will take payments. :p Thanks for the helpful info again guys, I appreciate it. :tiphat:

onzedge 05-10-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1714174)
Swifts + Konis + Sways would be easy to maintain. The only thing I can think of is periodically checking to make sure the sway bar bushings are properly greased.

On the 5.0 I am running a watts link which uses spherical rod-ends. I have to grease them every 2-4 weeks or so otherwise they squeak. Same with my lower control arms. Oh well... labor of love. :icon17:

Also, happy to announce I am ahead of schedule with this crap at work. I should have everything done by tomorrow afternoon and can leave for ZDayZ stress free, only to jump back into it on the 22nd. :)

Nice. I just completed a massive requirements analysis that is not due until tomorrow. What on Earth am I going to do with myself now? I can't sent it to the client early -- that sets a bad precedence in terms of expectation-setting. :icon17:

m4a1mustang 05-10-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1714192)
Nice. I just completed a massive requirements analysis that is not due until tomorrow. What on Earth am I going to do with myself now? I can't sent it to the client early -- that sets a bad precedence in terms of expectation-setting. :icon17:

Even if I don't have work to do I will be staying late tonight and tomorrow for effect. Might help make my bonus check a little bigger. :bowrofl:

kenchan 05-10-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1714186)
Then it sounds like I'm doing it (as soon as I can)! I don't mind having to tweak something every now and then, as long as it isn't too frequent. I did read about the leaking Koni issue, will definitely keep my eyes open for it.

Now if only FBNISSAN will take payments. :p Thanks for the helpful info again guys, I appreciate it. :tiphat:

sounds good! :tup: the last tweak i did on my G was maybe 3yrs ago when i got her some adjustable endlinks from powergrid for the front swaybar. :) i have rear adjustable powergrids NIB and just waiting for the stock endlink to fail. :tup: i only put about 6k miles max/yr on the car so i expect no changes for a while. :p

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1714192)
Nice. I just completed a massive requirements analysis that is not due until tomorrow. What on Earth am I going to do with myself now? I can't sent it to the client early -- that sets a bad precedence in terms of expectation-setting. :icon17:

you sound like me, mr.onzedge. wat to do with the time i just saved... :ugh2: :icon17: i have to get my head in another project now. hopefully i can finish this in an hr or so that i can relax for a few hrs before heading to an offsite appointment afterhours, then kid's school thing after that.

onzedge 05-10-2012 01:41 PM

Oh yeah, tomorrow, we are doing this in San Francsico:

Tour Dates - Roger Waters - The Wall Live

happytheman 05-10-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1713362)
Sounds like a good place to start:tup:

Good morning guys:hello:

Only two more days of work then Im finally on VACATION!!!!! My front tires should be in today so either this afternoon or tomorrow they will be mounted. Final ZDAYZ prep goes down Saturday at my friends house. We will be doing and engine oil swap to Eneos and a diff fluid swap to Eneos as well:tup: We will also go over all the nuts and bolts that we touched during my big install the other week. ZDAYZ is almost here:excited:

Say, what size did you go with Alchemy?

gurneyeagle 05-10-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1714055)
Hmm I'll need more opinions on the suspension mods then.

I have the stuff for the visibility fix in the car. Just haven't felt up to messing with it. Been really tired and lots of headaches lately.

ms. pint, I'm with mr. kenchan on this one. I actually lowered my car on Tanabe springs, and then went back to the stock set-up because of scraping issues here in Houston.

I don't know what the roads are like in Austin, but driveways can be treacherous when you are lowered.

In addition, everything - EVERYTHING - you do to your car involves some form of compromise. That compromise is usually out-weighed by the benefit of the mod, however it is a compromise to be dealt with nonetheless.

And now for some totally unsolicited (apologies up front :tiphat:) advice:

It's very easy to get caught up with the mod bug. It's expensive, but fun. However, as someone who says they are trying to clear-up their debt situation (kudos to you sweetheart - become the 1% :tup:), take a breath and relax. If you love your car as much as you say you do, it will be there for you to lavish whatever mods on it you want.

Get a little financial cushion going before changing a practically new, and perfectly functioning, car. Trust me, if you stay smart with your finances, you'll have plenty of money to do what you want.

Short term sacrifices for long term gains.

And now back to regularly scheduled programming....................................

Apologies for any feelings hurt by the filibuster.

gurney

gurneyeagle 05-10-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1714221)
Oh yeah, tomorrow, we are doing this in San Francsico:

Tour Dates - Roger Waters - The Wall Live

I missed him in Houston a few weeks ago. :mad:

onzedge 05-10-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1713362)
Sounds like a good place to start:tup:

Good morning guys:hello:

Only two more days of work then Im finally on VACATION!!!!! My front tires should be in today so either this afternoon or tomorrow they will be mounted. Final ZDAYZ prep goes down Saturday at my friends house. We will be doing and engine oil swap to Eneos and a diff fluid swap to Eneos as well:tup: We will also go over all the nuts and bolts that we touched during my big install the other week. ZDAYZ is almost here:excited:

I am on my third oil change with ENEOS 5W-30. I am getting very good results with it.

Bucketlist2012 05-10-2012 02:07 PM

I think the wife is going to drive the garage queen 370Z today..

My neurologist won't let me drive until the new medication adapts to my body..

I haven't been this high in 20 years... I sure don't want to drive yet...Well I do want to drive, but I am a danger , and i probably won't remember the drive..

If you see me driving, please pull over and save yourself, and your car...

happytheman 05-10-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1713468)
Keurig ftw

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 1713470)
30 seconds or less...:bowrofl:

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1713473)
:tup: Yep. Keurig is very cool.

I love my Keurig! It gets me by every day! :)

Bucketlist2012 05-10-2012 02:13 PM

Gurney eagle...

Sound financial advise leads to a sweet and comfy life....

If more people did their homework and took action, there would be more people having more fun.. Opps, high jack alert...Back to our regular programming

bbigby64 05-10-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1714153)
I think I still want to do the full set up. Realistically, how much of a pain is it going to be to maintain though?



I try, having scoliosis doesn't help with sleeping. Might have sleep apnea as well.

Hmm. I recall an ex-girlfriend of mine who had scoliosis. I think that she had to wear a back brace for a while. My memory is kind of fuzzy. We're talking 30 years. :icon17:

Pintsize725 05-10-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 1714246)
ms. pint, I'm with mr. kenchan on this one. I actually lowered my car on Tanabe springs, and then went back to the stock set-up because of scraping issues here in Houston.

I don't know what the roads are like in Austin, but driveways can be treacherous when you are lowered.

In addition, everything - EVERYTHING - you do to your car involves some form of compromise. That compromise is usually out-weighed by the benefit of the mod, however it is a compromise to be dealt with nonetheless.

And now for some totally unsolicited (apologies up front :tiphat:) advice:

It's very easy to get caught up with the mod bug. It's expensive, but fun. However, as someone who says they are trying to clear-up their debt situation (kudos to you sweetheart - become the 1% :tup:), take a breath and relax. If you love your car as much as you say you do, it will be there for you to lavish whatever mods on it you want.

Get a little financial cushion going before changing a practically new, and perfectly functioning, car. Trust me, if you stay smart with your finances, you'll have plenty of money to do what you want.

Short term sacrifices for long term gains.

And now back to regularly scheduled programming....................................

Apologies for any feelings hurt by the filibuster.

gurney

The only reason I have my one mod at all is because it was too good of a deal to pass up and was cheaper for me in the long run. Trust me, I am dedicated to paying stuff off before I start spending more $$, UNLESS the deal is way too good to pass up.

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Originally Posted by bbigby64 (Post 1714284)
Hmm. I recall an ex-girlfriend of mine who had scoliosis. I think that she had to wear a back brace for a while. My memory is kind of fuzzy. We're talking 30 years. :icon17:

No brace here, just need physical therapy that I don't have time for.

kenchan 05-10-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 1714246)
ms. pint, I'm with mr. kenchan on this one. I actually lowered my car on Tanabe springs, and then went back to the stock set-up because of scraping issues here in Houston.

I don't know what the roads are like in Austin, but driveways can be treacherous when you are lowered.

In addition, everything - EVERYTHING - you do to your car involves some form of compromise. That compromise is usually out-weighed by the benefit of the mod, however it is a compromise to be dealt with nonetheless.

And now for some totally unsolicited (apologies up front :tiphat:) advice:

It's very easy to get caught up with the mod bug. It's expensive, but fun. However, as someone who says they are trying to clear-up their debt situation (kudos to you sweetheart - become the 1% :tup:), take a breath and relax. If you love your car as much as you say you do, it will be there for you to lavish whatever mods on it you want.

Get a little financial cushion going before changing a practically new, and perfectly functioning, car. Trust me, if you stay smart with your finances, you'll have plenty of money to do what you want.

Short term sacrifices for long term gains.

And now back to regularly scheduled programming....................................

Apologies for any feelings hurt by the filibuster.

gurney

great post, mr. gurney. :tup:

i too ive by the 'Short term sacrifices for long term gains' philosophy.
well, in my case it's not a huge gain but it's a larger landing cushion im going for. hahaha. :icon17:


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Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012 (Post 1714263)
I think the wife is going to drive the garage queen 370Z today..

My neurologist won't let me drive until the new medication adapts to my body..

I haven't been this high in 20 years... I sure don't want to drive yet...Well I do want to drive, but I am a danger , and i probably won't remember the drive..

If you see me driving, please pull over and save yourself, and your car...

hummm.... can ride along shotgun? :) might be a great way to get outside and enjoy the weather (given it's sunny...:icon17: )

gurneyeagle 05-10-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1714296)
The only reason I have my one mod at all is because it was too good of a deal to pass up and was cheaper for me in the long run. Trust me, I am dedicated to paying stuff off before I start spending more $$, UNLESS the deal is way too good to pass up..

ms. pint - you don't have to justify anything to anyone, especially me. I know how easy it is to get caught up in modding a Z.

I just want you, and everyone else for that matter, to be happy in the long run.

Hey, it's the only benefit of being old - you actually have some experience to share with others so they don't make the same mistakes that we did. :tiphat:

Alchemy 05-10-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by happytheman (Post 1714239)
Say, what size did you go with Alchemy?

255/30

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1714254)
I am on my third oil change with ENEOS 5W-30. I am getting very good results with it.

glad to hear, thats what I will be running:tup:

alcheng 05-10-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1714296)
The only reason I have my one mod at all is because it was too good of a deal to pass up and was cheaper for me in the long run. Trust me, I am dedicated to paying stuff off before I start spending more $$, UNLESS the deal is way too good to pass up.


Nah... mod when you feel need to, don't mod for the "too good of a deal".

I only put not too many on my Z, Rims, Spoiler, Intake, HU, Knob and Clear Bra. I did those because I think I NEED them, well, spoiler is more cosmetic but it turns out pretty good. If I mod my Z because of "too good of a deal", I would have Swifts + Koni + sway + camber arm + CBE done on it already....

But before I spend my hard earn money, I always ask myself "what do I need the most?" To ensure I won't regret about spending my money. :tiphat:

I don't know if you recall one of my post on your $1100 couple days ago, I said another option is to just save it for a bigger mod.. that will work too.

just my Molson's CAD$0.02, hope you found it helpful. :tiphat:

SteelMoments 05-10-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1713805)
Well this guy is notorious for giving his $5 worth of an opinion. Unfortunately, he's the only person I can talk parts with since he's my office mate and he's into motorcycles so he at least knows what I'm talking about. I'm still doing it. I WANT to push the car but I'd rather do it when I know I CAN.

You can! I work with a guy who is also an autocross instructor... He encouraged me to take my old Tiburon out. I was a little reluctant (though mainly because I don't like to get up before the sun, and those events always start gawd-awful early), and he told me that people often tell him that "my car can't do that!" But actually they can! Even a beat-up old Nissan Sentra can be pushed. You just have to know the car's limits, and know your own limits as a driver. The best place to find those out is on a track, of course...

Pintsize725 05-10-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelMoments (Post 1714400)
You can! I work with a guy who is also an autocross instructor... He encouraged me to take my old Tiburon out. I was a little reluctant (though mainly because I don't like to get up before the sun, and those events always start gawd-awful early), and he told me that people often tell him that "my car can't do that!" But actually they can! Even a beat-up old Nissan Sentra can be pushed. You just have to know the car's limits, and know your own limits as a driver. The best place to find those out is on a track, of course...

I definitely need a driving day on a track! As JARblue suggested, I'll be taking a class at Driveway Austin as soon as possible.


Ok OFC members, enough with financial advice. While appreciated, this has turned into the Days of Tracie's Life. LOL


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