radar detector users encouraged to read this

gsxr750 · 03-15-2012, 02:27 PM

The simple fact is that with the new pulsed k band radar or instant on systems, or laser speed detectors, the cop simply targets your car and you are not going to recieve a warning from your dector until its to late.

The only way you can hope that the current crop of detectors will help you is if they hopefully pick up some scattered or reflected signal or laser lite from the cops unit. Also the reception or recieving area of these dectors is very limited, specially with a laser speed gun.

Also most of the speed trap cops deploy their speed detection units in a way that radar/laser dectors can not respond in time, most go off once the cop already clocked you.

As for these websites that claim to evaluate the various detectors, most of these sights are not independent consumer testing centers, or at least a reputable car mag. Most have some direct tie to the dector manufactures.

Its like all the evaluations you see by supposed independent test sights on the internet for all the various infomercial scams on TV and when you look further into them and they are also selling the scam products.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

The simple fact is that with the new pulsed k band radar or instant on systems, or laser speed detectors, the cop simply targets your car and you are not going to recieve a warning from your dector until its to late.

The only way you can hope that the current crop of detectors will help you is if they hopefully pick up some scattered or reflected signal or laser lite from the cops unit. Also the reception or recieving area of these dectors is very limited, specially with a laser speed gun.

Also most of the speed trap cops deploy their speed detection units in a way that radar/laser dectors can not respond in time, most go off once the cop already clocked you.

As for these websites that claim to evaluate the various detectors, most of these sights are not independent consumer testing centers, or at least a reputable car mag. Most have some direct tie to the dector manufactures.

Its like all the evaluations you see by supposed independent test sights on the internet for all the various infomercial scams on TV and when you look further into them and they are also selling the scam products.

My detector sounds off way ahead of every cop i pass that is clocking people. Maybe around here cops are still using old detectors...

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

My detector sounds off way ahead of every cop i pass that is clocking people. Maybe around here cops are still using old detectors...

The techniques gsxr is describing are used in very very limited fashion in most of the US. Some areas they use these heavily but most places do not have the budget or training for it. To be able to use the newer laser systems you have to be trained in it, it is not just a plug and play system.

Also, the instant on system is very tedious to use. I know cops who could use it, but instead they just roll around with the K-band on and still get people constantly. The effort to constantly be turning on/off the system and tricking people is not worth it for most, especially when they can go for five minutes and get a speeder.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The techniques gsxr is describing are used in very very limited fashion in most of the US. Some areas they use these heavily but most places do not have the budget or training for it. To be able to use the newer laser systems you have to be trained in it, it is not just a plug and play system.

Also, the instant on system is very tedious to use. I know cops who could use it, but instead they just roll around with the K-band on and still get people constantly. The effort to constantly be turning on/off the system and tricking people is not worth it for most, especially when they can go for five minutes and get a speeder.

Makes sense. My laser detector always sounds off for luxury cars....

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

Makes sense. My laser detector always sounds off for luxury cars....

That would be Inifiniti most of the time, which usually it is, that is the cruise control/guidance system they have which slows the car down automatically if they get to close to another car (it is very annoying). Audi's lane change assist runs on the k band I believe, but I have found if I am in front of the car it does not go off, it is just when I am directly behind one.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

That would be Inifiniti most of the time, which usually it is, that is the cruise control/guidance system they have which slows the car down automatically if they get to close to another car (it is very annoying). Audi's lane change assist runs on the k band I believe, but I have found if I am in front of the car it does not go off, it is just when I am directly behind one.

yes always infinitis!

gsxr750 · 03-15-2012, 03:00 PM

Just visited one of the radar dector websites and they listed the effective range of the top of the line escort unit to be 1200 ft. or about 1/5th. of a mile. The cop basically already has you targeted, before you even know it.

This range of detection is a joke, with such a short range your basically going to be nailed almost every time by the cop setting up. If your doing 70-75 mph your going to cover that distance in only about 10-12 seconds, take into account human reaction time and having to slow down, results in beep "OH CRAP HE NAILED ME" .

In order to avoid detection you need to have the incoming signal being recieved at a far enough distance to avoid triggering the cops unit or pick up a signal bouncing off some other targeted car.

Your really need at least a 1/2 mile warning = 30 seconds minimum or hopefully a signal a mile away to really avoid getting ticketed.

03-15-2012, 03:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 15	Just visited one of the radar dector websites and they listed the effective range of the top of the line escort unit to be 1200 ft. or about 1/5th. of a mile. The cop basically already has you targeted, before you even know it. This range of detection is a joke, with such a short range your basically going to be nailed almost every time by the cop setting up. If your doing 70-75 mph your going to cover that distance in only about 10-12 seconds, take into account human reaction time and having to slow down, results in beep "OH CRAP HE NAILED ME" . In order to avoid detection you need to have the incoming signal being recieved at a far enough distance to avoid triggering the cops unit or pick up a signal bouncing off some other targeted car. Your really need at least a 1/2 mile warning = 30 seconds minimum or hopefully a signal a mile away to really avoid getting ticketed. Last edited by gsxr750; 03-15-2012 at 03:02 PM.

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03-15-2012, 02:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 15	The simple fact is that with the new pulsed k band radar or instant on systems, or laser speed detectors, the cop simply targets your car and you are not going to recieve a warning from your dector until its to late. The only way you can hope that the current crop of detectors will help you is if they hopefully pick up some scattered or reflected signal or laser lite from the cops unit. Also the reception or recieving area of these dectors is very limited, specially with a laser speed gun. Also most of the speed trap cops deploy their speed detection units in a way that radar/laser dectors can not respond in time, most go off once the cop already clocked you. As for these websites that claim to evaluate the various detectors, most of these sights are not independent consumer testing centers, or at least a reputable car mag. Most have some direct tie to the dector manufactures. Its like all the evaluations you see by supposed independent test sights on the internet for all the various infomercial scams on TV and when you look further into them and they are also selling the scam products.