Roads?!?! Who needs roads...:ugh2:

Or thought you were in a WRX for a split second and wanted to test out that AWD haha.

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m4 was testing the pucker factor of his 'stang. I think it took some industrial cleaner to get the recaro's clean.

I think it's called penis envy........

Or propaganda

However a 2013 GT500 Mustang with comparable options which means it needs the SVT performance and the Track Pack will cost more than a base ZL1 which has all the goodies to begin with...about $5-6K more that and well have fun finding a Ford dealer that will sell one @ MSRP or without a markup of at least $10K


BTW I love both cars ....


It will be interesting to see an road course comparo's between the (2) but i dont think the difference will be that great either...

I bet insurance on a ZL1 or Shelby will be pretty high regardless of age. High insurance rates also helped kill muscle cars back in the day. Plus once a few get wadded up rates will go up, and they will get crashed. Both are great cars though for the dollar amount.

Have you looked at the rates for the 350? It's not that much better.....

No they are both 55k starting and I'd still like to see both in base configuration go against each other. Now the 5 to 6K that you are talking about are the performance pack $3500 and the track pack $2000. The PP is the suspension and the TP is the coolers.

At $55k the GT500 is still a faster car.

And the ZL1 buyer has to pay guzzler tax of $1300 for MT and $2600 for AT. And go to the pump more often.

Lemers when you pay $60,000 for a car neither the gas guzzler tax nor gas mileage is a factor. Sounds like you need both additions on the GT500 to track it. The only options on the ZL1 are appearance. So I would say that the base GT500 is a drag car and you need the $5500 for road racing. You don't need any options on the ZL1 to do either. Chevy has already said that the power train is still under factory warranty while you track the car, is Ford that willing to back it's product? Just cause you mentioned the options I went to the Ford site. To build a GT500 like my ZL1 is optioned is $63,500 for the GT500 and $58,000 for the ZL1. I can buy an underdrive sfi rated crank pulley and tuner to make over 650 hp and still add a cold air intake for under $60,000. BTW I do have atleast $2,000 earmarked for just these mods, plus another $1,000 for some body mods.

The so then you are paying about $57k for the base ZL1 even more is you want the auto and the GT500 is $57.5K with only the PP or $60k with both. So $3000 isn't a factor?

Nope $58,000 is with the MT, sunroof, stripe package and suede interior package.

Plus 1300 for the gas guzzler makes it $59.3k

Very slightly rounded numbers are as follows for the GT500: Base $54,000, SVT Perf. package $3,500, SVT Track pack. $3,000, glass roof $2,000, 19/20inch alum wheels free, total $63,500.

My final price for my car is $58,000. That is with dest. charge, gas guzzler and anything else.