Gas prices for high test is $4 to $5 per gallon

vividracing · 02-23-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lol1234

The upside is cars like the Leaf! I may be in the minority but I really want to see the next Z go electric or hybrid at the least. MPG is becoming a bigger factor for me personally in buying cars.

Hybrids are worse for the environment than gas engines. It does help get us away from oil, but in the end, we need to find an alternative fuel source. Electricity in the United States primarily comes from burning fossil fuels.

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

Maybe prices are rising because Dubai is going broke? Lol

Or maybe Saudi Arabia is running out of oil... Supply and demand

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Originally Posted by Speedy

The biggest mistake is allowing a gasoline/oil to be traded on the open market as a commodity like a stock. Anytime investors stand to make money, and the news propagates all this "gas will be $5 a gallon" of course they make it happen by buying up the price of the commodity on the market.

Supply and demand has less effect on fuel prices than the actual market does. That should be eliminated.

I agree, to an extent.

I think you guys should take a look at this documentary with Michael Ruppert. It's called Collapse and it's available for rent on Amazon.

Amazon.com: Collapse: Michael Ruppert, Chris Smith, Kate Noble, N/A: Amazon Instant Video

I'm not saying to take everything in that film as truth, but just being aware of the things mentioned in that film is a good start. Do your own research.

Cmike2780 · 02-23-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

Hybrids are worse for the environment than gas engines. It does help get us away from oil, but in the end, we need to find an alternative fuel source. Electricity in the United States primarily comes from burning fossil fuels.

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37% of the nation's energy came from petroleum, 21% from coal, and 25% from natural gas. Nuclear power supplied 9% and renewable energy supplied 8%, which was mainly from hydroelectric dams & other renewables.

The problem is that there isn't a clear alternative & renewable enery source. Even doubling our Nuclear plants wouldn't really take that huge of a dent from our dependence on petroleum. Not only that, we keep using more energy, not less.

How are hybrids worst for the environment than a gas engine? It's still technically a gas engine.

b1adesofcha0s · 02-23-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

The problem is that there isn't a clear alternative & renewable enery source. Even doubling our Nuclear plants wouldn't really take that huge of a dent from our dependence on petroleum. Not only that, we keep using more energy, not less.

How are hybrids worst for the environment than a gas engine? It's still technically a gas engine.

This. Also for electric cars, they may not be as clean as most people think because the electricity comes from dirty sources FOR NOW. That doesn't mean that this will always be the case. There's obviously a push to move towards renewable sources of energy for electricity production. As time passes and there are more technological innovations as well as cost reductions, renewable sources will become a much larger portion of where we get our electricity from. Whenever that does happen, electric cars will be far cleaner the gas powered cars.

The other thing you have to realize is that by the time electricity sources become more clean, we will need the technology for electric cars and a whole new infrastructure to adapt to them to be ready to go. If we start working on all of that now, it will save a lot of time later. You can't just wait 25, 50, 100, or how ever many years it takes for electricity to become more "green" and then be like "ok now that we took care of that let's start thinking about how we can use electric cars now."

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