Help me! Engine oil problem!!

leepeen · 05-26-2009, 12:50 PM

hmmmm... i think i need to drain this retarded priceless garbage oil and get
Pennzoil(good price, Quaker was more expensive than this) or AMSoil(too expensive though...) thx for advice NISMOZ.
Should i stick to 5W-30? or is it okay if im using other than 5W-30?(ex,5-40 or 0w-50 etc)
Do i need to change oil filter? I've only used new oil and filter for 800miles. My oil is already breaking down? F***
I want my money back!!

Robert_Nash · 05-26-2009, 01:51 PM

I would recommend you use Nissan's recommended ester oil (which is a Penzoil Platinum product). I suspect you'll find your engine oil will run a bit cooler and your engine a bit quieter.

It's my understanding that Nissan has a service bulletin out on this and is recommending this oil for all Nissan and Infiniti vehicles that use the 3.7L V6 engine.

There are some good technical write-ups regarding why this oil is better for the engine so as I'm not an engineer and as the info is already available elsewhere I won't go into it here.

leepeen · 05-26-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

I would recommend you use Nissan's recommended ester oil (which is a Penzoil Platinum product). I suspect you'll find your engine oil will run a bit cooler and your engine a bit quieter.

It's my understanding that Nissan has a service bulletin out on this and is recommending this oil for all Nissan and Infiniti vehicles that use the 3.7L V6 engine.

There are some good technical write-ups regarding why this oil is better for the engine so as I'm not an engineer and as the info is already available elsewhere I won't go into it here.

thx for advice ^^ i will get penzoil platinum this week!

kantonm · 05-26-2009, 02:57 PM

Back in the 90's my parents had an RX-7 and the factory recommended QS. The techs said that it was thinner than the other oils on the market and was better suited to the rotary... Maybe that is the problem in a high compression engine, too thin. Interesting?

ConchZ2 · 05-26-2009, 06:47 PM

Where did you learn that Nissan Ester oil is a Pennzoil Platinum product?

ConchZ2 · 05-26-2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

I would recommend you use Nissan's recommended ester oil (which is a Penzoil Platinum product). I suspect you'll find your engine oil will run a bit cooler and your engine a bit quieter.

It's my understanding that Nissan has a service bulletin out on this and is recommending this oil for all Nissan and Infiniti vehicles that use the 3.7L V6 engine.

There are some good technical write-ups regarding why this oil is better for the engine so as I'm not an engineer and as the info is already available elsewhere I won't go into it here.

Where did you learn that Nissan Ester oil is a Pennzoil Platinum product?

Robert_Nash · 05-26-2009, 07:08 PM

A local Nissan dealer where I had my oil changed using Nissan's brand...the service manager provided me a coupon that will give me (I believe...I don't have the coupon in front of me) a $50 rebate after a specified number of oil changes (four I think) from Penzoil for using a Penzoil Platinum product.

ChrisSlicks · 05-26-2009, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

A local Nissan dealer where I had my oil changed using Nissan's brand...the service manager provided me a coupon that will give me (I believe...I don't have the coupon in front of me) a $50 rebate after a specified number of oil changes (four I think) from Penzoil for using a Penzoil Platinum product.

Do you think it has a direct commercial counterpart or do you think that Penzoil is producing a customized oil for Nissan?

Robert_Nash · 05-26-2009, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Do you think it has a direct commercial counterpart or do you think that Penzoil is producing a customized oil for Nissan?

I honestly do not know but I would be surprised if the blend Nissan is selling isn't some sort of "standard" Pennzoil Platinum product.

I was surprised when my dealer's service manager handed me the rebate coupon but I have to conclude that the "Nissan Ester oil" is at least some version of Pennzoil Platinum synthetic.

tvfreakazoid · 05-27-2009, 04:46 AM

Try castrol or royal purple. I hear that Penzoil is crap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by leepeen

hmmmm... i think i need to drain this retarded priceless garbage oil and get
Pennzoil(good price, Quaker was more expensive than this) or AMSoil(too expensive though...) thx for advice NISMOZ.
Should i stick to 5W-30? or is it okay if im using other than 5W-30?(ex,5-40 or 0w-50 etc)
Do i need to change oil filter? I've only used new oil and filter for 800miles. My oil is already breaking down? F***
I want my money back!!

leepeen · 05-27-2009, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Try castrol or royal purple. I hear that Penzoil is crap.

Where did you hear that Pennzoil is crap? Is there are any proven issue on that certain oil?

which castrol oil do you recommend?, I couldn't find castrol Edge at my area.... only regular Castrol synthetic is available...BTW, I heard Royal purple is one of the best engine oil at the market, but not with nissan VQ engines. Is it true?

NIZMOZ · 05-27-2009, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leepeen

Where did you hear that Pennzoil is crap? Is there are any proven issue on that certain oil?

which castrol oil do you recommend?, I couldn't find castrol Edge at my area.... only regular Castrol synthetic is available...BTW, I heard Royal purple is one of the best engine oil at the market, but not with nissan VQ engines. Is it true?

Castrol Edge is overpriced. Walmart has it for around $34 for a 5 quart container. When you can get Penzoil Plat for $20 (5 quart jug), M1 for $22 (4 quart jug), Castrol Syntec $25 (5 quart jug).

Royal Purple is one of the worst oils you can get.

Truth in Advertising: BP v. Royal Purple

+ all the tests done on bobistheoilguy.com forums.

Old Chuck · 05-27-2009, 10:58 AM

Would be interesting to follow up on who actually makes Nissan ester. I don't believe for a minute that Nissan makes is but does hold the patent. Got some good stuff on bobistheoilguy.com on Nissan ester oil. However, no one is sure who makes it. It is not common enough to generate a lot of interest. I am sure with a little digging that someone will discover the maker and how much ester is has in it. It could be only a small %. Like some oils that advertise being synthetic but only have a small amount of synthetic base stock. Ester is not new. Amsoil makes their compressor oil with it. I would imagine that any good group IV or above would do very well. Will do some digging and see what I can find.

ZforMe · 05-27-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Royal Purple is one of the worst oils you can get.

Just curious what it is on the graphs posted on the previous page that proves Royal Purple is one of the worst oils you can get. Seems like it did just fine to me.

I mean come on, worst oils you can get??

NIZMOZ · 05-27-2009, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Try castrol or royal purple. I hear that Penzoil is crap.

You heard wrong. RP is actually crap. Read the site I recommended above to learn more about oils and tests that have been done on all the new ones.

Penzoil Plat is one of the best oils out now and it's only $20 bucks!

05-26-2009, 12:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
leepeen Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 110 Drives: PW 370z Touring A7 Rep Power: 17	hmmmm... i think i need to drain this retarded priceless garbage oil and get Pennzoil(good price, Quaker was more expensive than this) or AMSoil(too expensive though...) thx for advice NISMOZ. Should i stick to 5W-30? or is it okay if im using other than 5W-30?(ex,5-40 or 0w-50 etc) Do i need to change oil filter? I've only used new oil and filter for 800miles. My oil is already breaking down? F*** I want my money back!! Last edited by leepeen; 05-26-2009 at 12:59 PM.

05-26-2009, 01:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Robert_Nash Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle TN/Savannah GA Posts: 762 Drives: '14 Q60IPL/'14Armada Rep Power: 18	I would recommend you use Nissan's recommended ester oil (which is a Penzoil Platinum product). I suspect you'll find your engine oil will run a bit cooler and your engine a bit quieter. It's my understanding that Nissan has a service bulletin out on this and is recommending this oil for all Nissan and Infiniti vehicles that use the 3.7L V6 engine. There are some good technical write-ups regarding why this oil is better for the engine so as I'm not an engineer and as the info is already available elsewhere I won't go into it here. __________________ Robert -My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama -

05-26-2009, 02:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
kantonm Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: california Posts: 29 Drives: 06 Acura TL Rep Power: 17	QS in rotary Back in the 90's my parents had an RX-7 and the factory recommended QS. The techs said that it was thinner than the other oils on the market and was better suited to the rotary... Maybe that is the problem in a high compression engine, too thin. Interesting?

05-26-2009, 07:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
Robert_Nash Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle TN/Savannah GA Posts: 762 Drives: '14 Q60IPL/'14Armada Rep Power: 18	A local Nissan dealer where I had my oil changed using Nissan's brand...the service manager provided me a coupon that will give me (I believe...I don't have the coupon in front of me) a $50 rebate after a specified number of oil changes (four I think) from Penzoil for using a Penzoil Platinum product. __________________ Robert -My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama -

05-27-2009, 10:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
Old Chuck Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida & SC Posts: 86 Drives: 05 Tundra& 02 Subaru Rep Power: 17	Pennsoil and Nissan ? Would be interesting to follow up on who actually makes Nissan ester. I don't believe for a minute that Nissan makes is but does hold the patent. Got some good stuff on bobistheoilguy.com on Nissan ester oil. However, no one is sure who makes it. It is not common enough to generate a lot of interest. I am sure with a little digging that someone will discover the maker and how much ester is has in it. It could be only a small %. Like some oils that advertise being synthetic but only have a small amount of synthetic base stock. Ester is not new. Amsoil makes their compressor oil with it. I would imagine that any good group IV or above would do very well. Will do some digging and see what I can find.

05-26-2009, 06:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
ConchZ2 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: connecticut Posts: 329 Drives: 09 370Z red 6sp sprt Rep Power: 17	Where did you learn that Nissan Ester oil is a Pennzoil Platinum product?

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