370z vs BRZ.......

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-17-2012, 10:41 AM

The BRZ is a nice lookin ride. The FRS even nicer. The japanese FT-86 will most likely be the sexiest one of the bunch. All I know is... if subaru or scion makes a TT??? Those 270hp can turn into about 420hp with a lil less than $3k on a 27-2800lb chassis???? I'M FLOORED! That's hot. That's how JDM culture flourished here in its roots.
They were low hp cars with an incredible amount of balance and supercar-like handling. Toyota and subaru are going back to the basics. I love it. They created nostalgia to their Brand... if you were a kid in 1982? You can remember when the first hatchback new style celicas and supras hit the street. They looked so hot. They were different compared to the streets flooded with Regals Monte's and seville's. Everyone was tripping at the new transam and camaro Fbody. And toyota was putting out these low horse hatches that easily outhandled the muscle. They snuck in through the back door. So did mitsubishi with the conquest/starion. While america was just learning how to build an aerodynamically correct car. Like the 1970-1980's Z cars. Japan went ahead and introduced another new affordable way of modification. ECU tuned power and turbocharging which was cheaper than dirt back then... try turbocharging now. It costs as much as a Z to do it right.

capitolism at its best.

Toyota f***ed up when they made the celica FWD and cancelled the supra, then MR2. As did honda when they cancelled the prelude 4ws, NSX and S2k. Or mitsu with the eclipse and EVO. THE ECLIPSE JUST NEEDED TO RETUTN TO IT AWD ROOTS! The evo just needed an interior upgrade.
Same with mazda... I hate roadsters and they don't capture what the gen1-3 Rx7's did and the RX8 is a joke on wheels.

As far as the Z goes. As much as I love the Z34 bodystyle and handling. I would love to see the next generation Z to be a 3000lb car or below with a smaller v6 and twin turbos. 3.0 pushing 270hp na and a TT option pushing 400hp. That would be an insane ride. The 80's and 90's were a great time for JDM cars. We need that back in all the brands.

cossie1600 · 01-17-2012, 07:25 PM

I thought the aftermarket scene died because people realize how stupid financially it is to dump $20K into a car that is worth $10K (and then to realize someone in a stock Mustang can smoke them).

Rooster89 · 01-17-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I thought the aftermarket scene died because people realize how stupid financially it is to dump $20K into a car that is worth $10K (and then to realize someone in a stock Mustang can smoke them).

I think the prices had a lot to do with it too.

The yen to dollar, the profitability of aftermarket parts, etc.

01-17-2012, 10:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	The BRZ is a nice lookin ride. The FRS even nicer. The japanese FT-86 will most likely be the sexiest one of the bunch. All I know is... if subaru or scion makes a TT??? Those 270hp can turn into about 420hp with a lil less than $3k on a 27-2800lb chassis???? I'M FLOORED! That's hot. That's how JDM culture flourished here in its roots. They were low hp cars with an incredible amount of balance and supercar-like handling. Toyota and subaru are going back to the basics. I love it. They created nostalgia to their Brand... if you were a kid in 1982? You can remember when the first hatchback new style celicas and supras hit the street. They looked so hot. They were different compared to the streets flooded with Regals Monte's and seville's. Everyone was tripping at the new transam and camaro Fbody. And toyota was putting out these low horse hatches that easily outhandled the muscle. They snuck in through the back door. So did mitsubishi with the conquest/starion. While america was just learning how to build an aerodynamically correct car. Like the 1970-1980's Z cars. Japan went ahead and introduced another new affordable way of modification. ECU tuned power and turbocharging which was cheaper than dirt back then... try turbocharging now. It costs as much as a Z to do it right. capitolism at its best. Toyota f***ed up when they made the celica FWD and cancelled the supra, then MR2. As did honda when they cancelled the prelude 4ws, NSX and S2k. Or mitsu with the eclipse and EVO. THE ECLIPSE JUST NEEDED TO RETUTN TO IT AWD ROOTS! The evo just needed an interior upgrade. Same with mazda... I hate roadsters and they don't capture what the gen1-3 Rx7's did and the RX8 is a joke on wheels. As far as the Z goes. As much as I love the Z34 bodystyle and handling. I would love to see the next generation Z to be a 3000lb car or below with a smaller v6 and twin turbos. 3.0 pushing 270hp na and a TT option pushing 400hp. That would be an insane ride. The 80's and 90's were a great time for JDM cars. We need that back in all the brands.

01-17-2012, 07:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	I thought the aftermarket scene died because people realize how stupid financially it is to dump $20K into a car that is worth $10K (and then to realize someone in a stock Mustang can smoke them).