370z vs BRZ.......

370Zsteve · 01-16-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Well again, kinda comparing apples to oranges. The Z is approx a 3300lb vehicle. At its barest, 3232Lbs.
The subaru BRZ is at 2700 approx lbs. Which probably puts the Z and turbo brz in the same hp to weight ratio. Not to mention FI is a much more valid modifier.

I mean I'm not even going to pass any judgement till the turbo is on a track and competing. The BRZ seems like a pretty good pkg for what it is.

2700 lbs curb weight and 270hp is a nice package. And when gasoline hits $5-$6 gal it's gonna be a sweet spot.

Red__Zed · 01-16-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Dsport test drove the FR-S and nearly crashed it. In a side article they said subaru already has a 270hp engine ready to go but they haven't said ye or ne on that powerplant. Dsport speculated if in fact they do bring it out? It will be in two years or so???

Stopped reading at "dsport"

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-16-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Stopped reading at "dsport"

Don't really care but thanks.

Red__Zed · 01-16-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Don't really care but thanks.

When you say "dsport says", car guys read "some guy pulled out of his a$$"

vividracing · 01-16-2012, 10:15 AM

The FR-S/BRZ isn't really even in the same class as the 370Z. Totally different animals.

I'd like to see a BRZ with an FR-S front end swap

The Dimer · 01-16-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

The FR-S/BRZ isn't really even in the same class as the 370Z. Totally different animals.

I'd like to see a BRZ with an FR-S front end swap

I actually find the FR-S to be a more attractive car than the BRZ, but would rather have the Subie over a Scion. Problem solved.

semtex · 01-16-2012, 10:31 AM

I think the BRZ has merit for what it is, but I'm a little put off by their use of the STi monicker on something so weakly powered. I wonder if I'm going to have BRZ drivers challenging me in my real STi as a continual nuisance.

theDreamer · 01-16-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

I think the BRZ has merit for what it is, but I'm a little put off by their use of the STi monicker on something so weakly powered. I wonder if I'm going to have BRZ drivers challenging me in my real STi as a continual nuisance.

Oh geez, cannot wait for the day these cars hit the street and every boy racer buys them up and goes out thinking they are hot sh1t.

semtex · 01-16-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Oh geez, cannot wait for the day these cars hit the street and every boy racer buys them up and goes out thinking they are hot sh1t.

Exactly. And by plastering the STi logo on the BRZ, Subaru is just feeding into that. I also think Subie is diluting the STi brand, if that makes any sense. That's admittedly a subjective thing though, mind you.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-16-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Oh geez, cannot wait for the day these cars hit the street and every boy racer buys them up and goes out thinking they are hot sh1t.

It happens with every model sports car. What can you really do?

edub370 · 01-16-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

It happens with every model sports car. What can you really do?

not buy one...

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-16-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

not buy one...

Exactly... lol

280z/300zx · 01-16-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

I think the BRZ has merit for what it is, but I'm a little put off by their use of the STi monicker on something so weakly powered. I wonder if I'm going to have BRZ drivers challenging me in my real STi as a continual nuisance.

the STI monicker isn't being used for the BRZ, it was used for the STI BRZ CONCEPT (the blue one with the wing, more aggresive body kit, wheels, etc). The concept was supposed to draw attention to what could be, not necessarily what will be. So in that regard I don't think Subaru is doing anything wrong.

semtex · 01-16-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

the STI monicker isn't being used for the BRZ, it was used for the STI BRZ CONCEPT (the blue one with the wing, more aggresive body kit, wheels, etc). The concept was supposed to draw attention to what could be, not necessarily what will be. So in that regard I don't think Subaru is doing anything wrong.

Oh. Well that's good.

kenchan · 01-16-2012, 10:34 AM

i think the main selling point and reason for BRZ/FRS is suppose to be price and power/weight ratio. bascially taking nothing and trying to make something out of it.

when you add all sorts of aftermarket parts to make these cars 'capable' as in enough power to compete with the current standard 300hp+ sports car crowd, the prices go up into Z terriory. why not then just buy the real deal in that case instead of tinkering around with some wannabie toy?

that is how i see this car. if 200hp and lightweight/fun to drive/cheap, then it needs to sell under $25K.

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semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 34	I think the BRZ has merit for what it is, but I'm a little put off by their use of the STi monicker on something so weakly powered. I wonder if I'm going to have BRZ drivers challenging me in my real STi as a continual nuisance. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

01-16-2012, 10:34 AM	#15 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	i think the main selling point and reason for BRZ/FRS is suppose to be price and power/weight ratio. bascially taking nothing and trying to make something out of it. when you add all sorts of aftermarket parts to make these cars 'capable' as in enough power to compete with the current standard 300hp+ sports car crowd, the prices go up into Z terriory. why not then just buy the real deal in that case instead of tinkering around with some wannabie toy? that is how i see this car. if 200hp and lightweight/fun to drive/cheap, then it needs to sell under $25K.