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m4a1mustang 01-03-2012 02:42 PM

FWIW, the OLD Mustangs (05-09) on all-seasons were .87g.

phelan 01-03-2012 02:47 PM

Why do we always have to fight against a Mustang :facepalm:

m4a1mustang 01-03-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1474174)
The funniest part to me is when the OP says. A Z outhandle a mustang? Really? Its like he can't elaborate because he's never driven a Z. And if he has? Not hard or extensively enough to really make a comparison. NOW. Though the mustang is greatly improved. The mustang G's are .95g which is great for a car of that size. But that G, is a track recorded grip level. On the street, that same exact brembo'ed and suspensioned Z drops to .87g which again, .87g on the street is great. But the lowest out sport models get on the street is middle 90's. Our cars still corner way better. Our steering feel is way better. Turn in feels way more precise and and flatter. As good as the stang is its just not up to snuff in handling. But it does kick *** compared to its muscle bredrin.

More thoughts (and I'm rehashing this from previous discussion because I feel it's necessary to counter your misinformation)...

Steering: Yes, the Z has better steering feel. The Brembo cars, in Sport mode, still feel pretty good, though.

Turn-in: I've said this before and I'll say it again. Turn-in is sharper on the 5.0. The 5.0 also corners flatter. There's a reason some of the track guys actually run a smaller rear sway bar on the 5.0s. The only difference between the two is that the Mustang's roll rate is faster than the 370s, so the 370 has better mass control in transition. This is a damper issue. The Tokicos on the 5.0 (the rear at least) feel like they are tuned for the 370Z... the only problem is the 5.0 carries more weight so they can't keep up as well at higher speed cornering. Under 60mph or so they are fine.

Precision: The Z has a lot of built in oversteer (thank you stagger!). Push it hard and you know what this feels like. The 5.0 has the better balance. It rotates the center of the corner a lot easier than the 370 does. If anything it's got more of a hint of oversteer at the limit. The Z is precise, though. It's more "point and shoot" than the 5.0. Just make sure you don't carry too much speed to the apex or you're going to push like hell. The 5.0 requires more work to drive fast... you have to be comfortable driving a "free" car.

The result: Two totally different feeling cars that accomplish pretty much the same damn thing on track (Excluding the straights).

b1adesofcha0s 01-03-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1474205)
Why do we always have to fight against a Mustang :facepalm:

Cuz we gave those horses a lick and they taste just like raisins. :yum:

m4a1mustang 01-03-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1474205)
Why do we always have to fight against a Mustang :facepalm:

I don't know. All I know is it's never a good idea to pull performance numbers out of your a$$. :)

Cmike2780 01-03-2012 02:49 PM

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phelan 01-03-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1474211)

there needs to be a branch in there somewhere for a 300ZX and a WRX.

m4a1mustang 01-03-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1474214)
there needs to be a branch in there somewhere for a 300ZX and a WRX.

Don't forget the WS6.

Cmike2780 01-03-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1474214)
there needs to be a branch in there somewhere for a 300ZX and a WRX.

I picked the 3 best cars. No way a 300zx or WRX could be better than a Miata :P

m4a1mustang 01-03-2012 02:56 PM

I've attacked this thread with knowledge and experience. Now I am going to drive home. If it is still here when I get there, we'll see what kind of fun we can have. ;)

phelan 01-03-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1474226)
I picked the 3 best cars. No way a 300zx or WRX could be better than a Miata :P

oh no you didn't.

sixpax 01-03-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm (Post 1474187)
18 years old, V6 Mustang, nuff' said.

:owned:

m4a1mustang 01-03-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1474232)
oh no you didn't.

Mud flaps son. Mud flaps.

Cmike2780 01-03-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1474235)
Mud flaps son. Mud flaps.

lolz

phelan 01-03-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1474235)
Mud flaps son. Mud flaps.

because rally car.


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