I think my dealer covered up an accident.

PapoZalsa · 12-29-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

I know I do body work for a living,I still don't think they replaced the whole side that would have been a $5000-$9000 repair a car with that much damage would be easy to detect with minimal looking.

Not really,there are some good body shops.

Z_ealot · 12-29-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

I know I do body work for a living,I still don't think they replaced the whole side that would have been a $5000-$9000 repair a car with that much damage would be easy to detect with minimal looking.

i dont know how the laws are there, but from what i was told by the body shop that repaired my old cobalt after an old lady backed into the driver side door, they are required by law to take the original VIN sticker off the door if it has been replaced and put a new sticker on the door. Keep in mind that the replacement sticker looks nothing like the original VIN sticker that it replaces and is not in the same place alot of the time either.

msb3079 · 12-30-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

In Georgia (I don't know about other states)a dealer can do $500 or under in repairs to a new car and by law they don't have to tell the customer.

Just cause the side was repainted it doesn't mean it was replaced some A'hole could have walked thru the parking lot and keyed the whole side.

Dealer's that have body shops usually give the new car salesman the est. and lets say it is $825 the new car manager knows that he will have to tell the cust. so the body shop discounts the price on paper to meet the $500 threshold.

Just a thought

This is definitely more than $500. Thanks though.

Trips · 12-29-2011, 06:25 PM

Like it has been recommended, Get a lawyer this way they'll think twice on trying to screw someone else, But they are what they are bottom feeders.

Thechidz · 12-29-2011, 08:24 PM

post the name of dealership here to help future buyers

better yet, do what Ben did:

mr-sk's Part Out Thread! (LTH, AAM CBE, HKS, DynoDash)

Review: Dishonorable experience at Gwinnett Place Certified GTR Dealer, Duluth GA - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

it's a long story, but worth the reading. A win for pissed off consumers everywhere

msb3079 · 12-30-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Thechidz

post the name of dealership here to help future buyers

better yet, do what Ben did:

mr-sk's Part Out Thread! (LTH, AAM CBE, HKS, DynoDash)

Review: Dishonorable experience at Gwinnett Place Certified GTR Dealer, Duluth GA - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

it's a long story, but worth the reading. A win for pissed off consumers everywhere

I'll read in a bit, thanks.

I bought it from Woodbury Nissan in Woodbury, NJ.

haitech · 12-30-2011, 12:47 AM

Man that's a shady way to run a business

leeyeegue · 01-13-2012, 11:12 AM

its actually legal for dealers to sell framed damaged vehicles without disclosing it..

typically what can happen is that the car got scratched up on the truck or "fell" off. or a manager who demoed it crashed it.

dealers to dealers have to disclose frame damage, dealers to customers no.

NAAA (National Auto Auction Association) considers any replaced fenders or quarter panels frame damage...

sorry to hear that.

msb3079 · 06-04-2012, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeyeegue

its actually legal for dealers to sell framed damaged vehicles without disclosing it..

typically what can happen is that the car got scratched up on the truck or "fell" off. or a manager who demoed it crashed it.

dealers to dealers have to disclose frame damage, dealers to customers no.

NAAA (National Auto Auction Association) considers any replaced fenders or quarter panels frame damage...

sorry to hear that.

Actually... you are wrong. That is very far from legal. Different laws in different states though. But that is not legal in NJ.

msb3079 · 06-04-2012, 12:29 PM

Hey guys...

Kept forgetting to give updates.

Nissan ended up only paying a payment as a "kind gesture" since it was a dealer issue (which is was). They did however contact the dealer and start things there.
I went to the dealer about a month ago.. and after about 2 hours of talking/explaining/negotiating... they agreed to do what I asked.

They took my 2009 370Z, which I owed $27,000 on. And they "gave" me a 2012 370 Touring Sport 6MT. Basically everything that my 2009 had. There were no Montery Blues anywhere around... so I ended up going with Gun Metallic.

They basically swapped out my loans. They took care of my 2009 and sold me the 2012 (MSRP $42,900) for $25,000 plus taxes and whichever.. which equaled to exactly what I owed on my 2009.

I could have gotten more out of going to a lawyer like many suggested... but as I told the dealer, I figured this would be the easiest solution for all involved. They eventually agreed. The entire process was pretty painless... just waiting for the the from out of state.

Everyone actually treated me very well. Glad it's over.

RiCharlie · 06-06-2012, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msb3079

Hey guys...

Kept forgetting to give updates.

Nissan ended up only paying a payment as a "kind gesture" since it was a dealer issue (which is was). They did however contact the dealer and start things there.
I went to the dealer about a month ago.. and after about 2 hours of talking/explaining/negotiating... they agreed to do what I asked.

They took my 2009 370Z, which I owed $27,000 on. And they "gave" me a 2012 370 Touring Sport 6MT. Basically everything that my 2009 had. There were no Montery Blues anywhere around... so I ended up going with Gun Metallic.

They basically swapped out my loans. They took care of my 2009 and sold me the 2012 (MSRP $42,900) for $25,000 plus taxes and whichever.. which equaled to exactly what I owed on my 2009.

I could have gotten more out of going to a lawyer like many suggested... but as I told the dealer, I figured this would be the easiest solution for all involved. They eventually agreed. The entire process was pretty painless... just waiting for the the from out of state.

Everyone actually treated me very well. Glad it's over.

Maybe the dealer and the big shots at Nissan were reading this post and decided to act..

Jasonle · 06-04-2012, 12:32 PM

Glad it worked out for you man!

Ubetit · 06-04-2012, 12:33 PM

Sounds like a very fair offer to me.

gbrettin · 06-04-2012, 12:45 PM

I think the main thing was that they took care of the issue by doing what was right. I'm glad to hear it worked out.

msb3079 · 06-04-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

I think the main thing was that they took care of the issue by doing what was right. I'm glad to hear it worked out.

Yeah, exactly. I agree.

Thanks guys.

12-29-2011, 08:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Thechidz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY Posts: 1,009 Drives: Nissan 370z Monti Bl Rep Power: 17	post the name of dealership here to help future buyers better yet, do what Ben did: mr-sk's Part Out Thread! (LTH, AAM CBE, HKS, DynoDash) Review: Dishonorable experience at Gwinnett Place Certified GTR Dealer, Duluth GA - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club it's a long story, but worth the reading. A win for pissed off consumers everywhere __________________ I <3 my car Last edited by Thechidz; 12-29-2011 at 08:27 PM.

06-04-2012, 12:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
msb3079 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: collingswood.nj Posts: 133 Drives: 12 Touring Sport 6MT Rep Power: 18	Hey guys... Kept forgetting to give updates. Nissan ended up only paying a payment as a "kind gesture" since it was a dealer issue (which is was). They did however contact the dealer and start things there. I went to the dealer about a month ago.. and after about 2 hours of talking/explaining/negotiating... they agreed to do what I asked. They took my 2009 370Z, which I owed $27,000 on. And they "gave" me a 2012 370 Touring Sport 6MT. Basically everything that my 2009 had. There were no Montery Blues anywhere around... so I ended up going with Gun Metallic. They basically swapped out my loans. They took care of my 2009 and sold me the 2012 (MSRP $42,900) for $25,000 plus taxes and whichever.. which equaled to exactly what I owed on my 2009. I could have gotten more out of going to a lawyer like many suggested... but as I told the dealer, I figured this would be the easiest solution for all involved. They eventually agreed. The entire process was pretty painless... just waiting for the the from out of state. Everyone actually treated me very well. Glad it's over. Last edited by msb3079; 06-04-2012 at 12:32 PM.

06-04-2012, 12:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jasonle A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 3,509 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 27	Glad it worked out for you man! __________________ 2009 Nissan 370z/2003 Honda Soccer Van Shineauto Amuse Body Kit/UAM Fenders/Bc Br Coilovers/Topspeed Exhaust/Racing Hart Wheels and More My Sexy Beast

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