Lots of wrecked Z's...

my2004Z · 12-28-2011, 01:33 PM

I can't believe that nobody has even mentioned visibility in the 370Z as the culprit. People may not realize they are in a dangerous situation until it's too late and then they overreact and cause the car to go out of control. Perhaps the huge side mirrors and horrible rear 3/4 view is to blame for some of the accidents? The car is also fairly short and so it might be easy to miss in the blind spots of other cars.

I don't want to get sucked into the physics debate but the last time I went (purposefully) sliding on ice in an AWD Audi TT it didn't matter where the weight was or what nanny systems were on, it did not do what I wanted it to do because of the TIRES NOT GRIPPING ON THE ICE! Surface tension reigns supreme in a grip debate and there are just too many variables when driving on the street (pot holes, elevation changes, inconsistent surfaces, chemicals, debris, etc).

For the record I have driven 800+ different cars in all my years playing every iteration of Gran Turismo so I am declaring myself an authority on the matter of AWD cars spinning out during panic stops (reference Tokyo Route 246).

m4a1mustang · 12-28-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by my2004Z

I can't believe that nobody has even mentioned visibility in the 370Z as the culprit. People may not realize they are in a dangerous situation until it's too late and then they overreact and cause the car to go out of control. Perhaps the huge side mirrors and horrible rear 3/4 view is to blame for some of the accidents? The car is also fairly short and so it might be easy to miss in the blind spots of other cars.

I don't want to get sucked into the physics debate but the last time I went (purposefully) sliding on ice in an AWD Audi TT it didn't matter where the weight was or what nanny systems were on, it did not do what I wanted it to do because of the TIRES NOT GRIPPING ON THE ICE! Surface tension reigns supreme in a grip debate and there are just too many variables when driving on the street (pot holes, elevation changes, inconsistent surfaces, chemicals, debris, etc).

For the record I have driven 800+ different cars in all my years playing every iteration of Gran Turismo so I am declaring myself an authority on the matter of AWD cars spinning out during panic stops (reference Tokyo Route 246).

From what I remember of what's posted on the forum, most of the wrecks are single car accidents where someone just drove too aggressively for their skill level. So blind spots wouldn't really matter there.

my2004Z · 12-28-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

From what I remember of what's posted on the forum, most of the wrecks are single car accidents where someone just drove too aggressively for their skill level. So blind spots wouldn't really matter there.

I must have missed that part while I was laughing at this thread. My comments are meant to apply to the more generic title of "Lot's of wrecked Z's" and what i consider my only gripe (mild at that) with the 370Z.

m4a1mustang · 12-28-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by my2004Z

I must have missed that part while I was laughing at this thread. My comments are meant to apply to the more generic title of "Lot's of wrecked Z's" and what i consider my only gripe (mild at that) with the 370Z.

Does it wiggle when you brake?

b1adesofcha0s · 12-28-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Lots of people drive their Zs every day.

Yeah but I would imagine not as much compared to like a civic or something. I'm assuming that on average a Z is driven for less miles than a more practical DD like a civic or prius.

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Originally Posted by my2004Z

I can't believe that nobody has even mentioned visibility in the 370Z as the culprit. People may not realize they are in a dangerous situation until it's too late and then they overreact and cause the car to go out of control. Perhaps the huge side mirrors and horrible rear 3/4 view is to blame for some of the accidents? The car is also fairly short and so it might be easy to miss in the blind spots of other cars.

I don't want to get sucked into the physics debate but the last time I went (purposefully) sliding on ice in an AWD Audi TT it didn't matter where the weight was or what nanny systems were on, it did not do what I wanted it to do because of the TIRES NOT GRIPPING ON THE ICE! Surface tension reigns supreme in a grip debate and there are just too many variables when driving on the street (pot holes, elevation changes, inconsistent surfaces, chemicals, debris, etc).

For the record I have driven 800+ different cars in all my years playing every iteration of Gran Turismo so I am declaring myself an authority on the matter of AWD cars spinning out during panic stops (reference Tokyo Route 246).

Flawless logic right there

Red__Zed · 12-28-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Yeah but I would imagine not as much compared to like a civic or something. I'm assuming that on average a Z is driven for less miles than a more practical DD like a civic or prius.

yeah, I can't even think of anyone who drives their Z year round.

b1adesofcha0s · 12-28-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

yeah, I can't even think of anyone who drives their Z year round.

Me neither. Who would be dumb enough to do that? I bet there's also no one dumb enough to drive/buy their Z in a snow storm

Alchemy · 12-28-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Me neither. Who would be dumb enough to do that? I bet there's also no one dumb enough to drive/buy their Z in a snow storm

The day I went in to test drive a 370 it happened to be snowing. With accumulation to boot. First time behind the wheel and I displayed to the salesman how to properly slide the car sideways, in control, out into the highway. Shortly after that we hit a parking lot where I slid it around a bit more, lol

nuTinmuch · 12-28-2011, 02:40 PM

When I hit the gas in my Z, it spins violently, impacting the rotational speed of the Earth. This hurts all vehicles except those with a SRA. Coincidentally, I'm always out driving whenever MotorTrend is doing a numbers test.

Wait, what were we talking about again?

gbrettin · 12-28-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

The day I went in to test drive a 370 it happened to be snowing. With accumulation to boot. First time behind the wheel and I displayed to the salesman how to properly slide the car sideways, in control, out into the highway. Shortly after that we hit a parking lot where I slid it around a bit more, lol

I think he was laying on the sarcasim.

Alchemy · 12-28-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

I think he was laying on the sarcasim.

Im well aware of that, its why I told the story. Im laughing with him.

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12-28-2011, 01:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
my2004Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 285 Drives: 09' 370Z w/Sport 7AT Rep Power: 39	I can't believe that nobody has even mentioned visibility in the 370Z as the culprit. People may not realize they are in a dangerous situation until it's too late and then they overreact and cause the car to go out of control. Perhaps the huge side mirrors and horrible rear 3/4 view is to blame for some of the accidents? The car is also fairly short and so it might be easy to miss in the blind spots of other cars. I don't want to get sucked into the physics debate but the last time I went (purposefully) sliding on ice in an AWD Audi TT it didn't matter where the weight was or what nanny systems were on, it did not do what I wanted it to do because of the TIRES NOT GRIPPING ON THE ICE! Surface tension reigns supreme in a grip debate and there are just too many variables when driving on the street (pot holes, elevation changes, inconsistent surfaces, chemicals, debris, etc). For the record I have driven 800+ different cars in all my years playing every iteration of Gran Turismo so I am declaring myself an authority on the matter of AWD cars spinning out during panic stops (reference Tokyo Route 246).