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Old 12-28-2011, 12:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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but I think the last nhtsa/dot study only covered the 350z. IIRC, it led all vehicles in driver death rates
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but I think the last nhtsa/dot study only covered the 350z. IIRC, it led all vehicles in driver death rates
At Your Own Risk: These Vehicles Have The Highest Death Rates

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Filtering out multiple versions or body styles of like models, here are the vehicles with the highest rates of driver death:

Nissan 350Z – 143 (deaths per million registered vehicle miles)
Nissan Titan (crew cab) – 126
Chevrolet Aveo – 119
Chevrolet Cobalt (4-door) – 117
Kia Spectra – 102
Chevrolet Malibu Classic – 99
Hyundai Tiburon – 96
Nissan Versa – 96
Chevrolet Colorado (extended cab) – 93
Kia Rio – 89
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Stop talking and texting on your cell phone while driving....
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Are 350Z drivers more prone to texting and driving than other vehicle owners?
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Are 350Z drivers more prone to texting and driving than other vehicle owners?
I bet it's combination of those and lack of RWD or driving skills.
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Hmmm, it says those numbers are per million registered miles. The Z being a car that's not driven as much on top of everything else might be the reason it's so high up on the list.
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Hmmm, it says those numbers are per million registered miles. The Z being a car that's not driven as much on top of everything else might be the reason it's so high up on the list.
Lots of people drive their Zs every day.
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I can't believe that nobody has even mentioned visibility in the 370Z as the culprit. People may not realize they are in a dangerous situation until it's too late and then they overreact and cause the car to go out of control. Perhaps the huge side mirrors and horrible rear 3/4 view is to blame for some of the accidents? The car is also fairly short and so it might be easy to miss in the blind spots of other cars.

I don't want to get sucked into the physics debate but the last time I went (purposefully) sliding on ice in an AWD Audi TT it didn't matter where the weight was or what nanny systems were on, it did not do what I wanted it to do because of the TIRES NOT GRIPPING ON THE ICE! Surface tension reigns supreme in a grip debate and there are just too many variables when driving on the street (pot holes, elevation changes, inconsistent surfaces, chemicals, debris, etc).

For the record I have driven 800+ different cars in all my years playing every iteration of Gran Turismo so I am declaring myself an authority on the matter of AWD cars spinning out during panic stops (reference Tokyo Route 246).
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I can't believe that nobody has even mentioned visibility in the 370Z as the culprit. People may not realize they are in a dangerous situation until it's too late and then they overreact and cause the car to go out of control. Perhaps the huge side mirrors and horrible rear 3/4 view is to blame for some of the accidents? The car is also fairly short and so it might be easy to miss in the blind spots of other cars.

I don't want to get sucked into the physics debate but the last time I went (purposefully) sliding on ice in an AWD Audi TT it didn't matter where the weight was or what nanny systems were on, it did not do what I wanted it to do because of the TIRES NOT GRIPPING ON THE ICE! Surface tension reigns supreme in a grip debate and there are just too many variables when driving on the street (pot holes, elevation changes, inconsistent surfaces, chemicals, debris, etc).

For the record I have driven 800+ different cars in all my years playing every iteration of Gran Turismo so I am declaring myself an authority on the matter of AWD cars spinning out during panic stops (reference Tokyo Route 246).


From what I remember of what's posted on the forum, most of the wrecks are single car accidents where someone just drove too aggressively for their skill level. So blind spots wouldn't really matter there.
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Yeah but I would imagine not as much compared to like a civic or something. I'm assuming that on average a Z is driven for less miles than a more practical DD like a civic or prius.

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I can't believe that nobody has even mentioned visibility in the 370Z as the culprit. People may not realize they are in a dangerous situation until it's too late and then they overreact and cause the car to go out of control. Perhaps the huge side mirrors and horrible rear 3/4 view is to blame for some of the accidents? The car is also fairly short and so it might be easy to miss in the blind spots of other cars.

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For the record I have driven 800+ different cars in all my years playing every iteration of Gran Turismo so I am declaring myself an authority on the matter of AWD cars spinning out during panic stops (reference Tokyo Route 246).
Flawless logic right there
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Hmmm, it says those numbers are per million registered miles. The Z being a car that's not driven as much on top of everything else might be the reason it's so high up on the list.
arguably being a weekend driver helps lower your numbers. it is the main case made for vert numbers being low. "weekend drivers" are less prone to being in inclement weather accidents, as well as less likely to get hit by other drivers, since they aren't on the roads during heavy traffic times.
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arguably being a weekend driver helps lower your numbers. it is the main case made for vert numbers being low. "weekend drivers" are less prone to being in inclement weather accidents, as well as less likely to get hit by other drivers, since they aren't on the roads during heavy traffic times.
Yeah, but when you add in how people drive them on the weekends, the numbers skyrocket
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