Are you proud of this Nissan?

BlackZeda · 12-09-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Yeah it would take at least a day or two for me to be completely over something like that when it happens for the second time. It's worse if it makes you miss work or something because that just adds to the stress of the situation.

Again, I love the passion!

Spikuh · 12-09-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Yeah it would take at least a day or two for me to be completely over something like that when it happens for the second time. It's worse if it makes you miss work or something because that just adds to the stress of the situation.

And the embarrassment.

To be fair though, BlackZeda's first couple posts in the thread can be very easily taken to be inflamatory. Like I said, a lot of tone gets lost with words on a computer screen. We all do it. Just have to try and clarify better in the follow ups.

BlackZeda · 12-09-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

And the embarrassment.

To be fair though, BlackZeda's first couple posts in the thread can be very easily taken to be inflamatory. Like I said, a lot of tone gets lost with words on a computer screen. We all do it. Just have to try and clarify better in the follow ups.

I think that is fair...It was meant to create a little heat for Nissan when potential customers come in asking them about problems they have read about (and seen) on forum. Now if it is effective, who knows...

For certain I do feel that I have a lot more leverage when I go into the dealership or when I speak to Nissan about issues due to the knowledge and experience I can glean from this forum.

Again, if any forum members are offended, I apologize. But if a Nissan engineer or quality engineer is reading this, I hope you feel some shame and do something about it.

Talk about inflammatory, you should read that Car and Driver article about the 5 corner-carver shootout. They were savage.

Super Moderator II · 12-09-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The people jumping on the OP have probably never had this happen to them before. It's not a good feeling, especially if it happens twice.

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Originally Posted by frost

If I were stranded somewhere, I'd probably be pissed off too. I don't see any reason to jump his *** about it.

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Originally Posted by partsguy

People should.... if they really hate this car as much as they say.... just move on!!

I can't bite my tongue anymore, obviously OP's frustration was directed at Nissan, and any one of us would have been upset as well. If you're not going to make a helpful post, please move on

Da.Menace · 12-09-2011, 01:39 PM

There's only 1 answer to this thread.

onzedge · 12-09-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Da.Menace

There's only 1 answer to this thread.

Filipeanutz · 12-09-2011, 03:00 PM

I guess you just happened to be one of those unlucky ones holmeskii.
Thats why I got a warranty cuz i dont know what the hell im doing with these new technologies yet.

onzedge · 12-08-2011, 11:07 PM

BlackZeda --

Every car maker I know of and have experienced (I have been owning, driving, working on, rebuilding, wrecking and restoring cars for more than 36 years) has problems. Sometimes these are in a few, limited situations and sometimes the problems are more widespread.

To judge an entire company by a few issues that you have had with a single vehicle is neither logical nor fair. You like Toyotas? That's cool because they are very reliable cars; boring as all get out across the board, but reliable. Heck, my wife drives a Toyota and one of my favorite cars was my 1975 Celica. However, if you were one of the guys with the unintended acceleration problem or got your floor mat caught up in the gas pedal, you might be singing a different tune.

As far as Nissans go (z's in particular) my experience is that they are highly reliable and long-lasting. My 370 is my 11th Z car and I still have one of my 240's -- a '71. The 240z has 280,000 or so miles on it, one of my sons has a hand-me-down 1982 280zx (turbo) with more than 350,000 miles and my other son a hand-me-down 1983 280zx NA with about 360,000 miles. These are just a few examples and none of these has had major problems.

I don't know what my point is, exactly, other than to illustrate that when one is stranded it is easy to be upset and say hurtful things. Nissan makes very good cars, just like many other companies. Be patient with what probably are a few freak occurrences, be thankful that you have a good dealer to work with and don't worry so much.

-- onzedge has written...

BlackZeda · 12-08-2011, 11:30 PM

onzedge

I am trying to keep an open mind, but my post is more of a cautionary tale to prospective buyers.

Thanks for the insightful words!

onzedge · 12-09-2011, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

onzedge

I am trying to keep an open mind, but my post is more of a cautionary tale to prospective buyers.

Thanks for the insightful words!

Alchemy · 12-09-2011, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

BlackZeda --

Every car maker I know of and have experienced (I have been owning, driving, working on, rebuilding, wrecking and restoring cars for more than 36 years) has problems. Sometimes these are in a few, limited situations and sometimes the problems are more widespread.

To judge an entire company by a few issues that you have had with a single vehicle is neither logical nor fair. You like Toyotas? That's cool because they are very reliable cars; boring as all get out across the board, but reliable. Heck, my wife drives a Toyota and one of my favorite cars was my 1975 Celica. However, if you were one of the guys with the unintended acceleration problem or got your floor mat caught up in the gas pedal, you might be singing a different tune.

As far as Nissans go (z's in particular) my experience is that they are highly reliable and long-lasting. My 370 is my 11th Z car and I still have one of my 240's -- a '71. The 240z has 280,000 or so miles on it, one of my sons has a hand-me-down 1982 280zx (turbo) with more than 350,000 miles and my other son a hand-me-down 1983 280zx NA with about 360,000 miles. These are just a few examples and none of these has had major problems.

I don't know what my point is, exactly, other than to illustrate that when one is stranded it is easy to be upset and say hurtful things. Nissan makes very good cars, just like many other companies. Be patient with what probably are a few freak occurrences, be thankful that you have a good dealer to work with and don't worry so much.

-- onzedge has written...

IMPRESSIVE mileage on those Z's sir!! WOW 11 Z cars, impressive as well

OP, nothing is perfect in this world. SH1t is gonna happen. Things are ALWAYS gonna break.

onzedge · 12-09-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

IMPRESSIVE mileage on those Z's sir!! WOW 11 Z cars, impressive as well

OP, nothing is perfect in this world. SH1t is gonna happen. Things are ALWAYS gonna break.

Thanks. I like Z's and don't know why exactly.

BlackZeda · 12-08-2011, 09:34 PM

To Nissan's credit, the reason why I went with Nissan is I used to do 100% travel for my job. Out of the many, many cars I rented, they seemed to hold up the best, and we know how we like to beat the hell out of rentals

I didn't go for a Toyota because the IS-F is just stupid looking and they can keep the paddle-shifters!

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onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 64 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684737	BlackZeda -- Every car maker I know of and have experienced (I have been owning, driving, working on, rebuilding, wrecking and restoring cars for more than 36 years) has problems. Sometimes these are in a few, limited situations and sometimes the problems are more widespread. To judge an entire company by a few issues that you have had with a single vehicle is neither logical nor fair. You like Toyotas? That's cool because they are very reliable cars; boring as all get out across the board, but reliable. Heck, my wife drives a Toyota and one of my favorite cars was my 1975 Celica. However, if you were one of the guys with the unintended acceleration problem or got your floor mat caught up in the gas pedal, you might be singing a different tune. As far as Nissans go (z's in particular) my experience is that they are highly reliable and long-lasting. My 370 is my 11th Z car and I still have one of my 240's -- a '71. The 240z has 280,000 or so miles on it, one of my sons has a hand-me-down 1982 280zx (turbo) with more than 350,000 miles and my other son a hand-me-down 1983 280zx NA with about 360,000 miles. These are just a few examples and none of these has had major problems. I don't know what my point is, exactly, other than to illustrate that when one is stranded it is easy to be upset and say hurtful things. Nissan makes very good cars, just like many other companies. Be patient with what probably are a few freak occurrences, be thankful that you have a good dealer to work with and don't worry so much. -- onzedge has written... __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

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BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 23	To Nissan's credit, the reason why I went with Nissan is I used to do 100% travel for my job. Out of the many, many cars I rented, they seemed to hold up the best, and we know how we like to beat the hell out of rentals I didn't go for a Toyota because the IS-F is just stupid looking and they can keep the paddle-shifters!