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That said, I run carbotech xp8's (see sig), they're good for the track and so far (5K miles or so), jsut fine on the street, they dust alot, but have actually been fairly squeak free, a bit of surprise as I was expecting worse. I haven't run the Nismo's but those that have report significantly more dusting over the stockers and they are NOT up to handliing the rigors of an HPDE day. However, I would imagine that they'd do okay for some "spirited" street driving. |
Good post! I say get what makes sense, right now the economy is a little shaky. But if your set with a good savings then GTR all the way. =]
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I see where your interests are guy.:eek: I also see why you have no friends and can't handle a relationship as you've said in the past.:tiphat: |
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For comparison sake, how do you feel your 370Z accelerates compared to your old SS? My '95 was rock solid, but my '01 developed "serious problems" at around 75K miles. |
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When I first got the 370 I told my wife that it felt like it out accelerates the SS we had, she didn't think so but she's a woman and it's been 7 years since we had that car. So just to solve our argument, I looked up the 0-60 times and the 1/4 mile times, the z is definitely faster. At least according to this site Nissan 0-60 Times & Nissan Quarter Mile Times | Nissan Skyline GTR 0-60, Maxima 0-60, Altima SE-R, Murano, 350z, 2012 370z and 2011 Titan 0 to 60 stats! Besides, the quality is like 10 times better :tup: Your thread here caught my attention because my boss is constantly giving me grief on how I should have bought a corvette like him instead. He says I'm missing two cylinders, lol. I could use the same argument on him I reckon and tell him he should have bought a Ferrari or a viper because he's missing two cylinders lol |
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Problem is, I can only floor it for a few seconds before I'm doing double the limit on any freeway in my area. Then I stop flooring it and just cruise around, and for that, it flat-out sucks. Interior is very Cobalt. Except the Cobalt's sound-system is better. I looked up C&D's numbers, and the C5 'vette and the 370Z are identical within the variance of car-to-car in EVERY acceleration aspect I could find. For whatever ricer-math it's worth, I never lost to a C5, or a 2010 SS in my bone-stock 6-speed WS6 (2001). I am expecting similar to the 370Z, and they felt the same to me. A lot of people say once the C5/F-body hits 3rd gear, it's over, but looking at the 370Z's dyno-charts, I don't see why. It pulls hard right up to red-line, and has a table-flat torque curve and very well-matched gearing. |
Vettes are for geriatrics
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I've owned a half dozen chevy's, and I'm just completely over american cars. The Corvette used to be my dream car for a long time, but I got over it. Way over it. I think once you get used to the power of any car, what you are left with is what starts to really eat at you. If the fit and finish is terrible and it starts feeling like a piece of crap, you won't be happy with it even if it does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. I think it boils down to what you want more. A nice quality well built fun to drive car, or just all out power. If you want a muscle car, then the 370 will probably leave you wanting for more eventually. It's a tough spot to be in because I don't think you can get a car off the show room floor that's going to give you a **** ton of power and get quality at the same time for under 60,000. Sure, a GTR might get you there but from the sounds of it you are wanting more of a "touring" type package anyway, and I think a GTR or even a Vette isn't going to fit that bill. Just reading your thread and your comments over the last few days it really sounds like you want a 370, but you are just skeptical if it will be fast enough for you. I say get it. If you find it's not fast enough for you, then you can easily sell it and get the latest and greatest 600+hp muscle car is out a year from now. Personally I don't think you will find any significant complaints about the 370. If you do, there probably isn't any car that you will be 100% satisfied with. For me, Ive wanted a new Z car since the 350 debut in 2003. It wasn't practical for me at the time because I couldn't afford a 2nd car (i can't use it as a DD since I have two boys). Now I can afford it and I'm glad I waited because the 370 is a much nicer car than the 350. I could have bought a vette, or a mustang gt350, etc.. but besides preferring a japanese car I also took some satisfaction in that there aren't a million 370z's out there running around like there are vette's, camaro's, and mustangs. I like having something different. Add to that the fact that I have a 40th anniversary edition makes it even rarer. Heck, the guys at the local Nissan dealer had never even seen a 40th when I took it there to get it serviced last month. |
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You wish roid monkey.:p |
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Planning on trading in the Z06 when the '12 370Z is available optioned how I want. My main concern was...is it as nice in 50K miles and a few years as it is on the showroom floor and test-drives? Does that nice interior and body hold up, and is the driveline known for having problems? |
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That one dropped out of left field, lmao |
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It seems it will be hard to quantify how well it will hold up in this crowd. With so many guys hacking them up, lowering them, throwing turbo's on them, and tracking them, it won't get a fair analysis for how well it holds up as an OEM sports car driven on the street by normal people. I haven't looked at your other thread, but I would think there should be a number of people who drive the cars stock or mostly stock that should have valid input. |
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Same as your beaver reference. It's cool if your his biggest fan and can see his face in eveything like those church freaks that see jesus face in food and the like.:tup: I for one couldn't pick beaver out of a line up if i had all day to get it done. |
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I can tell you that mine isn't using any oil as some have reported with the 2010. And on the brakes question, I haven't taken mine down to the mountains but the brakes feel great on mine for street driving. I'm especially pleased with the low dust that makes keeping the wheels clean a breeze. I won't be changing the pads out.
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The sport brakes are fine for the street. They won't do well after a few laps at the track.
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:iagree: All around i've had mine since early 09 and zero oil burning problems and i check the level at least once a week. |
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Either way, I keep hearing nothing but good about the interior, which is my motivation to trade. Lots of complaint over the drive-line, though, regarding NVH. How bad is it, really? Sucks compared to your Honda, or have you driven 'vettes/F-bodies/Mustangs, etc? |
My offer still stands, if you wanted to ride in some 370's and compare stock to nismo to springs to coilovers. Different exhausts and power setups, wheel and tire combos, base models, touring, sport, nismo, we've got quite a few different things going on your call.
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How bad is what? The accelaration? I haven't driven a modern vette, I've owned two camaro's as mentioned previously. I've driven a lot of muscle cars. I've also raced motorcycles for a few years and have ridden a bunch of them, including the new BMW on the race track. That's 180 rwhp in a 439lb package, so I definitely know what fast is. I find the 370z to be plenty fast for me, but I'm not looking to blow up every stop light. The car will light up the traction control in first and second gear with ease. Turn off the traction control and you can hang your *** out in the wind all day long. In a nut shell it's got enough power to have fun. Go test drive one and get on it a bit. There isn't any reason not to find out. You don't have to take it up to 7k to feel it out. Surely the salesman won't mind you reving to 5k in a couple of gears. That will show you what it has. |
I like the one about how will the car feel after 50K. I have owned all Nissan vehicles with the exception of 2 Chevy's (used 88 Celebrity, used 93 Beretta) and a Mazda (new 04 3i, which I returned cause it had problems). I had a 96 Altima, 04 Sentra Spec V, 2 89 240SXs, 90 200SX (Euro S13 Hatch), and a 96 240SX. All of them were rock solid except the 200SX and that is because the owner installed a LPG tank in the hatch and did absolutely nothing to the car except add fuel (and that rediculous LPG system). With about half a year, I nursed that car back to life with a lot of parts and countless hours at the auto hobbyshop. Then it too was rock solid. I expect my 09 NISMO to be pretty much the same I remember it on the drive home from the dealer (AR to TX), which was rock solid.
I have mixed feelings about VDC. I prefer to drive with it off, but I have learned to drive "spirited" with it still on. Just no quick shifts from 1-2 or 2-3 at high RPMs. Again I usually leave it off except for inclimate weather situations. I also only use SRM only when I use VDC. For my purposes, the brake have been awesome so far. I have not been to the track yet, but have done plenty of "spirited" driving throughout various interesting areas. I have the NISMO Pads as well. The sound system sucked bad in the NISMO, but I am used to having somethng custom in the car anyway, so that was not an issue to me at all. Now I have Kenwood DNX6960 and a Wicked C.A.S Magic Box. Problem solved. The exhaust was so quiet, that I had a hard time getting in tune with the car. Now I have a F.I TDX and it is what I imagined a Z to sound like all along. Things may be different once I get my car back, as I took the TT plunge and may need to revisit some things in the future. But time will tell. The stock tires on the NISMO are Yokohama ADVANS and they are outstanding all around. Treadware was rated at 180, but I got 25K out of my rears and used them in the snow (while driving back to Texas after the holiday season) with no issues. Are the better cars out there? Definitely. With this car put a big grin on your face? For sure! Sorry for the book, but I just had to get all that out. Hopefully it is meaningfull to you. If not, meh......... :twocents: Rob |
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You will get a lot of engine roughness at that RPM, really not much different than a LS engine at the 6000+ RPM range. It's not a rotary or inline 6
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That's why I asked....noisy/harsh...compared to what? As to tire noise...325's out back, I cannot hear myself think over the shitty goodyear's. |
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We meet in baton rouge mostly. "We" is just the other 370 owers around the state like NO, BR, Covington, Lafayette, and all srounding areas. We do meet/greet and eats some track days and of course cruises usually once a month or so. The guys in BR meet up and grab dinner like once a week or so. Last one i went on we met up in BR and ran over to st. francisville where we had mapped out a very nice twisty empty road and it was a blast. The last one i didn't make but they ran from covington through NO and over to pierre park. Check out some of the links for a few details and pics. http://www.the370z.com/southern-regi...talk-meet.html http://www.the370z.com/southern-regi...er-cruise.html http://www.the370z.com/southern-regi...-north-la.html http://www.the370z.com/southern-regi...-car-show.html http://www.the370z.com/southern-regi...louisiana.html Many others in the southern region on the main page of the forum. |
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