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FL 4Motion 10-27-2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1380750)
How are we doing with setting up that support group? :bowrofl:

it's done, check out my new thread in the lounge section. God help us all.

KaienZ34 10-27-2011 05:05 PM

Dude please don't get a Z. You won't be happy and will just rag on it more than you already do. Is it perfect no, but what car is?

Jordo! 10-27-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Armonster (Post 1380698)
My impression is that the Z's interior is the real deal. It's nice. You do begin to notice some "$40k" qualities in various ways when you drive the car every day, though, such as:

-ergonomics (for example, resting your arm on the left armrest does not put your hand in a great position to hold the wheel, for long drives - I drove an M3 and have to say it was PERFECT on this aspect)

...

-engine harshness above 5-6k
...

-apparently, short people can't see over the big side mirrors

Ach -- yes, yes, and yes (a mere 5'7" with perfect posture).

I can't ever seem to get the steering wheel or seating height just right for the arm or the eyes, and we all know the Z sounds less than harmonious over 6K.

Still -- I loves it :D

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1380716)
yah, especially the exhaust is too quiet for sure...

After driving the car, I disagree. I have never complained about that, though. I did loud. It got old fast.

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1380743)
/\ I'd amend that to be 100-150K honestly.

If you picked up a 911 or GTR, I can GUARANTEE you that w/in 6 mo or less, you'd be looking at tweaking/improving certain things here or there. It's just the way it goes with folks like us. :tup:

People adapt. Period. You see TT Gallardo's, no?

I have adapted to 505bhp.

332bhp will be a bitch for a while, then that too will feel the same to ME as 505bhp did.

The interior is worlds ahead. THAT and the smaller note and equal handling (albeit a bit quirkier from what I hear) is the impetus for the trade.

Nismoracer 10-27-2011 09:27 PM

Its fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. The Z is a FUN car to drive. When they make a 390z or turbocharge it anything to get it a little faster and keep it comparable to the muscle cars i will all over it. My mustang is faster but the overall feel you get in the Z is not the same. It handles like a little race car. I will probably always go from one to the other. I would like to have both.

hdskull 10-27-2011 09:42 PM

I am short (5'8-5'9 ish), so yes the giant mirror slaps me in the face, when I make a left turn, but 99% of the time it's not an issue, if you're aware of your surroundings before hand (specifically referring to when the mirror blocks your sight of a pedestrian crossing).

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hdskull (Post 1381166)
I am short (5'8-5'9 ish), so yes the giant mirror slaps me in the face, when I make a left turn, but 99% of the time it's not an issue, if you're aware of your surroundings before hand (specifically referring to when the mirror blocks your sight of a pedestrian crossing).

Clear Bra should provide at least some protection for the clear-coat as long as you don't hit too hard it shouldn't mess the car up. Most people recoil from such a situation, lessening damage to your car. It's the children that you have to worry about, they can take out a radiator and often times are oblivious to their surroundings and may not flee in time.

UNKNOWN_370 10-27-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1380725)
You and JDM. Honestly you could say the same thing about any car in this price range.

Nothing is going to be "just right" south of $40k.

I'm not even gonna go there with you. Its "Mostly" the domestic visiting ex Z owners always in bicker mode. My comments are backed by the type of modifications you see in websites and tuner shops for this type of car. I'm not getting into it with you. Those who buy nismos and base models I think undeerstand what I mean???

Your statement is true to the global market while mine is a more specified comment for this distinct realm of import vehicle.

MightyBobo 10-28-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1380708)
At the end of the day, These are mod cars. They are built to a certain spec and you need to complete the rest. JDM is all about incredible platforms that need personalization.

You may as well say, "JDM is all about only going halfway, instead of actually doing the job right"...

If thats the way JDM culture is, I hate JDM culture even more.

m4a1mustang 10-28-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1381308)
I'm not even gonna go there with you. Its "Mostly" the domestic visiting ex Z owners always in bicker mode. My comments are backed by the type of modifications you see in websites and tuner shops for this type of car. I'm not getting into it with you. Those who buy nismos and base models I think undeerstand what I mean???

Your statement is true to the global market while mine is a more specified comment for this distinct realm of import vehicle.

You just make it seem like JDM is the only game it town when it comes to the customization and personalization thing, but the truth is just about any popular car in this price range has a tremendous aftermarket behind it. :tup:

ImportConvert 10-28-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1381629)
You just make it seem like JDM is the only game it town when it comes to the customization and personalization thing, but the truth is just about any popular car in this price range has a tremendous aftermarket behind it. :tup:

JDM lags FAR behind the mustang world. You 370Z guys are still trying to master how to tune your VVEL.

All that is a moot point to me, though, as the car will remain either stock, or get a few S-tune parts at the most.

So far I know:

PS2's
Wrap
Valentine 1
Ceramic tint

Other than that, it seems just fine to me, but if the OEM exhaust is too quiet (doubt that), then I might go with the NISMO exhaust, or a different one if it won't void warranty.

m4a1mustang 10-28-2011 09:16 AM

Why PS2s? They are old and the new PSS is better.

Also, stock exhaust is too quiet. It should have come stock with the NISMO exhaust.

MightyBobo 10-28-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1381659)
Other than that, it seems just fine to me, but if the OEM exhaust is too quiet (doubt that), then I might go with the NISMO exhaust, or a different one if it won't void warranty.

Its ridiculously quiet...you should probably go drive one lol. You'll barely hear it, even when getting on it. A different one wont void your warranty...

ImportConvert 10-28-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1381661)
Why PS2s? They are old and the new PSS is better.

Also, stock exhaust is too quiet. It should have come stock with the NISMO exhaust.

I thought the new PS2-ZP was the latest and greatest, and non ZP for cars that don't use them.

How is the NISMO exhaust?

How good are the OEM Potenza's on the sport package?

I had considered the Fast Intentions exhaust cat-back setup. From what I can see, it's a no-brainer in bolting it on as you don't have to go over the suspension as you do with the other cars I have owned, basically, un-bolt the exhaust, pull it off the hangers, and reverse. Am I missing something? It looks like 45 minutes under the car, max.

I would want ZERO drone, though. Drone FTL.

m4a1mustang 10-28-2011 09:27 AM

The Potenzas are fine. No need to change them out until they wear out.

NISMO exhaust sounds pretty good. You can actually hear it, but it's not obnoxious at all. It would be my ideal exhaust if I get a roadster. Sounds like a stock sport exhaust, maybe a little quieter than the stock 5.0.

ImportConvert 10-28-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 1381665)
Its ridiculously quiet...you should probably go drive one lol. You'll barely hear it, even when getting on it. A different one wont void your warranty...

It sounded okay to me, but I only drove it about 5 miles.

ImportConvert 10-28-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1381673)
The Potenzas are fine. No need to change them out until they wear out.

NISMO exhaust sounds pretty good. You can actually hear it, but it's not obnoxious at all. It would be my ideal exhaust if I get a roadster. Sounds like a stock sport exhaust, maybe a little quieter than the stock 5.0.

I will probably do that VS. FI, then, and instead of money on PS2's or PSS, I will keep the Potenza's.

m4a1mustang 10-28-2011 09:32 AM

No drone with the NISMO.

FI is very deep. Some say it drones, some say it doesn't. I definitely experienced it, though.

Good call on the tires. I doubt you'll even take the Potenzas to the limit on the street, so just get your moneys worth and spend the $1400 on new rubber when you actually need to. :)

ImportConvert 10-28-2011 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1381678)
No drone with the NISMO.

FI is very deep. Some say it drones, some say it doesn't. I definitely experienced it, though.

Good call on the tires. I doubt you'll even take the Potenzas to the limit on the street, so just get your moneys worth and spend the $1400 on new rubber when you actually need to. :)

I just know the stock F1 G:2's on my Z06 are worthless below about 70*. They HATE! the cold, and they require a good 20 minutes warm-up even in moderate temps. Was scared the Potenza's sucked too, glad to hear they do not.

NISMO brake-pads a good buy, or not? I read where the base/sport pads absolutely die if you use them AT ALL.

MightyBobo 10-28-2011 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1381688)
I just know the stock F1 G:2's on my Z06 are worthless below about 70*. They HATE! the cold, and they require a good 20 minutes warm-up even in moderate temps. Was scared the Potenza's sucked too, glad to hear they do not.

Oh they suck in the cold too. Lol - its the pains of a high performance summer tire. The rubber compound is just not made for cold, at all.

m4a1mustang 10-28-2011 09:38 AM

Yep, any summer tire is going to be that way.

ImportConvert 10-28-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1381693)
Yep, any summer tire is going to be that way.

I have never experienced so much fail, though. Performance tanks below 70* with the F1G:2's. Night and day once you get into the 60* weather. I know my F1GSD3's were not nearly as variable.

m4a1mustang 10-28-2011 09:43 AM

Well, below 70* any sumer tire will require a bit of warm up time. Though they won't start to get really dangerous (if you know what you are doing) until it drops below 50*.

ImportConvert 10-28-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1381701)
Well, below 70* any sumer tire will require a bit of warm up time. Though they won't start to get really dangerous (if you know what you are doing) until it drops below 50*.

Point taken, but noone is happy with the F1G:2's. Spring Mountain takes them off their 'vettes as soon as they arrive and throws them into storage. They then pay out of pocket for Michelin's that go on the car for track use (PS2-ZP's in OEM sizes).

That said worlds to me, considering GM sponsors Spring Mountain, and Goodyear is who GM is contracted on for every corvette but the ZR1 and Z07 package models.

kenchan 10-28-2011 10:02 AM

GSD3's are dated designs imho... not sure when the F1G's came out but i can say that the latest S04 Pole positions and Conti DW's stick very well even in 35F. the compound is softer.

RE050A's (nor their pole positions) dont stick too well under 50F.

im not sure but did bridgestone change to a softer compound for their summer tires? i notice slight flat spotting the first 3-4min or so when my car's parked for more than a few days at factory psi. never had this on RE050A's or the RE050A pole positions.

i noted spearfish had the same issue on RE11's. it's not a huge deal as it's not permanent but i can hear and feel the slight vibration the first mile on cold mornings. no issue on the DW's.

KaienZ34 10-28-2011 10:08 AM

Nismo exhaust with berk HFC's has a very nice deep sound with no drone. If i had to do it over i'd go FI Long Tube Headers and the nismo exhaust.

KaienZ34 10-28-2011 10:11 AM

If you wanted to make the drive and not be a douche we meet up fairly often and there are many different setups to see/hear, stock nismo, nismo with HFC's, stillen, etc...

http://www.the370z.com/southern-regi...ml#post1381715

Armonster 10-28-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1381744)
If you wanted to make the drive and not be a douche ...

lol

b1adesofcha0s 10-28-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Armonster (Post 1381761)
lol

+1 :rofl2:

m4a1mustang 10-28-2011 10:29 AM

:bowrofl:

Zemurray 10-28-2011 10:35 AM

Ive owned my 40th 370z for about a month and a half now. I can say that they car is very solid and has a nice quality feel to it. It's a very comfortable sports car. The power is plenty for the street for me. I think as you do and plan to keep the car mostly stock. I've grown out of having to have the most power possible, no car really impresses me power wise anymore and you get used to whatever you drive. I've been road racing motorcycles for a few years, so I'm used to a much quicker acceleration than most cars within a common mans reach can provide. For me, a good smooth power and, and a modest amount of torque are all that is required to have fun driving a car. The z has both. I've also debated the exhaust upgrade, but I think I will stay stock for now. It's quiet on the interstate, but it does have a decent growl when accelerating hard. Are you going to hear it while the stereo is blasting Metallica? No, but I don't think thats what I want.

For what it's worth, I've owned 2 camaro's. The last was a 98 SS (which had the same ls1 motor as the c5). After the shitty interiors rattled me to dearth, and that car started having significant problems at 65000 miles, I swore off Chevy for life. I primarily buy Japanese now, I've got a pilot, an FJ cruiser, and 3 Honda motorcycles. I get a lot more reliability out of the imports. The pilot haas 160,000 miles on it and the FJ 96,000. Both drive like new cars. The 370 is my first Nissan

6MT 10-28-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Zemurray (Post 1381782)
I swore off Chevy for life.

:iagree: Good choice.... me too.

KaienZ34 10-28-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Armonster (Post 1381761)
lol

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1381767)
+1 :rofl2:

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1381771)
:bowrofl:


Hey i'm going out on a limb here, from what i know of him (6'2 205 or some sh1t) he is a hell of alot bigger than me (5'9 150).

pedZ 10-28-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1381794)
Hey i'm going out on a limb here, from what i know of him (6'2 205 or some sh1t) he is a hell of alot bigger than me (5'9 150).

:bowrofl:

kenchan 10-28-2011 10:43 AM

it's okay red_zed will take care of him.

KaienZ34 10-28-2011 10:49 AM

But ZED is on a :ragequit: at the moment.

Red__Zed 10-28-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1381819)
But ZED is on a :ragequit: at the moment.

I'm always around to back up my boys.

b1adesofcha0s 10-28-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1381834)
I'm always around to back up my boys.

OMG the first post ragequit red__zed spotting!

kenchan 10-28-2011 10:58 AM

:bowrofl:


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