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NewYorkJon34 10-27-2011 10:26 AM

My friend's dad has a newer Z06 with the ultimate Z07 package which is the only Z06 Ive driven. For a stock Z06, it is incredible & much smoother driving then the Z. Ive heard driving a Z06 is a learning experience, as its alil tail-happy due to high torque/low weight. When I buy mine I want to go to the spring mountain driving school in nevada, as I want to improve my skills as a driver.

b1adesofcha0s 10-27-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1379876)
You'll be the first person ever to stall trying to shift into 3rd gear. :icon17:

:icon18:

Montez 10-27-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1379873)
it's funny you mentioned this cause i wasnt much of a nissan person until about 7yrs ago when i got my G35C so i didnt really think much about Nissan's brand image. honestly i didnt know much about nissans.

ive noticed recently that poor people have strong association with nissan as being a 'cheap car.' like someone that knows nothing about cars would point out nissan is a nissan aka 'cheap car'....and they would be amazed my 370Z was a nissan, not infiniti.

i, as a lot of folks here, have cash to buy a brand new 'cheap nissan' 2012 GTR (which i dont plan to buy).... can the poor do the same? i dont see the connection there. :icon17:

Thats sorta right but I think that that applies to certain Nissans, most people think the Z and Max are nice cool cars but for some reason the rest of the lineup what you stated above. Have seen it/heard it many of time as I have had nothing but Z's and Max's for the past 23 yrs

Jeffblue 10-27-2011 11:00 AM

IC. Just some food for thought. you say you get used to speed/power, so you might as well just switch to a car that you like more overall. But just like you get used to speed and power you also get used to any other aspect of a car. The things that excited you about the z06, now don't really do it for you anymore, and the things that excite you about the 370z and make you want to switch, will eventually do the same.

Once you come to the realization that you will eventually grow tired of what excites you about any car, you might as well just stick with what you have... especially if its a z06... thats a pretty awesome car.

just my :twocents:

FuszNissan 10-27-2011 11:01 AM

Why are we comparing a 75K car to a 33K car?

6MT 10-27-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 1380018)
Why are we comparing a 75K car to a 33K car?

:iagree: Besides, all these "comparason" threads seem to do is insight arguments. It soon degrades into childish fodder.

NewYorkJon34 10-27-2011 11:11 AM

The Z is a sexy car for sure but if I had to do it again, I would have bought a 2011 STI first or maybe a 5.0 just on the ease of modding it.

NewYorkJon34 10-27-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 1380018)
Why are we comparing a 75K car to a 33K car?

You could buy a used Z06 for about 45k, & we are comparing the driving experiences of both cars.

Jeffblue 10-27-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 1380040)
You could buy a used Z06 for about 45k, & we are comparing the driving experiences of both cars.


...and you can by a used Z for 25.

Footloose301 10-27-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 1380036)
The Z is a sexy car for sure but if I had to do it again, I would have bought a 2011 STI first or maybe a 5.0 just on the ease of modding it.

We think alike. I have minor regrets of not picking up the 2011 STI sedan.

The 5.0 performance is nice, but its still a Mustang and I see more and more old ladies driving them each day.

The Z06 is a sweet car and I'd love to get one. They are just as useless as the 370Z because they're both 2 seats with a useless trunk. "Its a flying gas can with 2 chairs" as my buddy calls my Z. I got a chance to drive my buddies 2007 Z06 two weeks ago and it's so much smoother than the Z and I don't mind the interior. For me the difference between getting a used Z06 vs a new 370Z is just the matter of flipping a coin. I'd be just as happy either way.

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 1380018)
Why are we comparing a 75K car to a 33K car?

Because I, OP, have a Z06 and am trading it for a loaded out 370Z. This thread is, as they say, relative to my interests. I told you why in the first post.

That being said....wtf is this?
http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...driverseat.jpg

Isn't the seat supposed to be 8-way power adjustable in the Touring model? What are those 2 knobs? Doesn't look "power" to me. Didn't feel like it either when I looked at one at the dealership today, either.

Footloose301 10-27-2011 11:35 AM

Just moves your butt up and down.

b1adesofcha0s 10-27-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380091)
Because I, OP, have a Z06 and am trading it for a loaded out 370Z. This thread is, as they say, relative to my interests. I told you why in the first post.

That being said....wtf is this?
http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...driverseat.jpg

Isn't the seat supposed to be 8-way power adjustable in the Touring model? What are those 2 knobs? Doesn't look "power" to me. Didn't feel like it either when I looked at one at the dealership today, either.

Power controls are on the other side of the seat, you can't see them from this angle.

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1380119)
Power controls are on the other side of the seat, you can't see them from this angle.

I saw that, but there was no way to adjust the orientation of the bucket of the seat (tilt the SEAT part fore or aft). I assume those big knobs do so? I like a little bit more "backward" tilt as it holds me into the seat better since Nissan didn't install locking seatbelts like my Z06 has.

Also, I saw what looked like brushed aluminum around the gauges and other places---is it? Or is that "polymer"?

I was very impressed with the interior as a whole, and the sound system.

pedZ 10-27-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380091)
Because I, OP, have a Z06 and am trading it for a loaded out 370Z. This thread is, as they say, relative to my interests. I told you why in the first post.

That being said....wtf is this?
http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...driverseat.jpg

Isn't the seat supposed to be 8-way power adjustable in the Touring model? What are those 2 knobs? Doesn't look "power" to me. Didn't feel like it either when I looked at one at the dealership today, either.

The power seats are not all power. It's kind of misleading. Only the seat back tilt and front to back adjustments are power if I remember correctly. Lumbar support and seat bottom tilt are controlled by the knobs.

m4a1mustang 10-27-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380129)
I saw that, but there was no way to adjust the orientation of the bucket of the seat (tilt the SEAT part fore or aft). I assume those big knobs do so? I like a little bit more "backward" tilt as it holds me into the seat better since Nissan didn't install locking seatbelts like my Z06 has.

Also, I saw what looked like brushed aluminum around the gauges and other places---is it? Or is that "polymer"?

I was very impressed with the interior as a whole, and the sound system.

The knobs move you up and down and tilt your *** up or down. :tup:

The brushed aluminum is plastic. :tup:

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pedelg24 (Post 1380130)
The power seats are not all power. It's kind of misleading. Only the seat back tilt and front to back adjustments are power if I remember correctly. Lumbar support and seat bottom tilt are controlled by the knobs.

Are the seats "solid"? If you own or have ridden in a 'vette you know what I mean. They slide around in the corners on their tracks a bit. Annoying. Does the Z do this, and when you nail the brakes, does the pass. seat flop forward?

PS. I finally get what you all mean. The 370Z "FEELS" a lot smaller than my Z06, even though it isn't.

Over-all, the interior is very nice. I'm now just concerned with how it wears/holds up inside, if the seats get loose on their tracks, if those inserts in the seats fray, if rattles are prone to develop, that sort of thing.

m4a1mustang 10-27-2011 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380137)
Are the seats "solid"? If you own or have ridden in a 'vette you know what I mean. They slide around in the corners on their tracks a bit. Annoying. Does the Z do this, and when you nail the brakes, does the pass. seat flop forward?

Sit in the seat and drive the car. :tup:

Answering questions for self = ftw. :hello:

b1adesofcha0s 10-27-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1380139)
Sit in the seat and drive the car. :tup:

Answering questions for self = ftw. :hello:

:iagree:

Haven't had any issues with the seats sliding around.

shadoquad 10-27-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380137)
Are the seats "solid"? If you own or have ridden in a 'vette you know what I mean. They slide around in the corners on their tracks a bit. Annoying. Does the Z do this, and when you nail the brakes, does the pass. seat flop forward?

PS. I finally get what you all mean. The 370Z "FEELS" a lot smaller than my Z06, even though it isn't.

Kirkster told me that 350z's had an issue with a loose rattle under the seat when driving really fast, but it had an easy fix. Other than that, I haven't heard about any other seat issues from folks who thrash 370z's.

kenchan 10-27-2011 11:43 AM

i thought you were talking about your purse in the picture, importconvert.

GZ3 10-27-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1380066)
The 5.0 performance is nice, but its still a Mustang and I see more and more old ladies driving them each day.

I dont understand what people mean when they say this?! Its just a mustang, why the negative connotation? Isnt a Z just a Z? These two cars have been head to head in price and performance for longest time until recent...i dont undertand what makes people think thier 30k car sets them apart from another 30k car. When i had my 370Z i loved it, same with all my 350's...when i saw a mustang...i would ONLY care if it was a GT and always saw it as formidable comp.

pedZ 10-27-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380137)
Are the seats "solid"? If you own or have ridden in a 'vette you know what I mean. They slide around in the corners on their tracks a bit. Annoying. Does the Z do this, and when you nail the brakes, does the pass. seat flop forward?

PS. I finally get what you all mean. The 370Z "FEELS" a lot smaller than my Z06, even though it isn't.

I think the seats a pretty solid with one exception. When you put your head on the head rest you can feel the posts from the head rest in your back. The seats seem pretty hollow but they don't slide around. The seats are a pretty tight fit too. You should take one out for a test drive. :tup:

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1380139)
Sit in the seat and drive the car. :tup:

Answering questions for self = ftw. :hello:

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Originally Posted by pedelg24 (Post 1380148)
I think the seats a pretty solid with one exception. When you put your head on the head rest you can feel the posts from the head rest in your back. The seats seem pretty hollow but they don't slide around. The seats are a pretty tight fit too. You should take one out for a test drive. :tup:



I have driven one, well, several, but my 'vette had solid seats when new, and now they tend to move around a bit. I loved the car on first impression (both the Z06 and the 370Z), I'm just curious how time treats it, and I don't want to answer that for myself if someone else can do so for me.

My one MAJOR complaint about the 370Z was the blind-spot. It was insane.

PS. I heard the head-rests were that way on purpose and it was a "feature"?

Jeffblue 10-27-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380137)
Are the seats "solid"? If you own or have ridden in a 'vette you know what I mean. They slide around in the corners on their tracks a bit. Annoying. Does the Z do this, and when you nail the brakes, does the pass. seat flop forward?

PS. I finally get what you all mean. The 370Z "FEELS" a lot smaller than my Z06, even though it isn't.

Over-all, the interior is very nice. I'm now just concerned with how it wears/holds up inside, if the seats get loose on their tracks, if those inserts in the seats fray, if rattles are prone to develop, that sort of thing.

if you want a nice interior, get a bmw or a real luxury car. the 370z interior is very very nice considering its a nissan sports car.

kenchan 10-27-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380149)
My one MAJOR complaint about the 370Z was the blind-spot. It was insane.

yep, mine too. was one of the arguments i used to get a nice deal on my car. :p

my aftermarket mirrors completely fixed this.

m4a1mustang 10-27-2011 11:47 AM

Some sort of safety feature.

The seats are solid and hold up. Everything on the Z is solid and holds up. Just keep an eye on oil consumption when new, add oil if needed, and you are gtg.

pedZ 10-27-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380149)
PS. I heard the head-rests were that way on purpose and it was a "feature"?

What do they call that feature? The "stab you in the back" feature? :icon17:

shadoquad 10-27-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1380147)
I dont understand what people mean when they say this?! Its just a mustang, why the negative connotation?

It means that the person in question is letting reputation of the car or the brand get in their way of exploring or enjoying the vehicle.
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380149)
My one MAJOR complaint about the 370Z was the blind-spot. It was insane.

PS. I heard the head-rests were that way on purpose and it was a "feature"?

blind spot is bad.

The head rests are the way they are to prevent whiplash, from what I understand. the lower part is supposed to stabilize the head/neck area in the event of a crash.

Red__Zed 10-27-2011 11:49 AM

^yep. All new cars have it.

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1380147)
I dont understand what people mean when they say this?! Its just a mustang, why the negative connotation? Isnt a Z just a Z? These two cars have been head to head in price and performance for longest time until recent...i dont undertand what makes people think thier 30k car sets them apart from another 30k car. When i had my 370Z i loved it, same with all my 350's...when i saw a mustang...i would ONLY care if it was a GT and always saw it as formidable comp.

Everyone likes to think their kool-aid is sweeter.

In my opinion...

Tier 6: Kia/Hyundai/Suzuki
Tier 5: Ford/Nissan/GM/Chrysler/Honda/Toyota
Tier 4: Lexus/Acura/Infiniti
Tier 3: BMW/Mercedes/Porsche/Audi/VW/Maserati/
Tier 2: Ferrari/Lamborghini/Aston Martin/Bently/Maybach
Tier 1: Rolls Royce/Bugatti/1-off type cars of uber-low production hand-made

Anyone in one tier above someone else who wants to talk smack about brand is just being an idiot imo. as many of the brands have vehicles that are worthy of a Tier higher or lower than the one the majority of their vehicles occupy. Once you move 2 tier levels, then you start to see some real gaps. At 3 tier levels, it's probably a different world, no-matter how loudly Hyundai wants to say that their paint is better than Mercedes.

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1380160)
It means that the person in question is letting reputation of the car or the brand get in their way of exploring or enjoying the vehicle.


blind spot is bad.

The head rests are the way they are to prevent whiplash, from what I understand. the lower part is supposed to stabilize the head/neck area in the event of a crash.

Yes, the way I understand it, the seats in new vehicles like that are like a really crappy external HANS device. Kindof cool.

kenchan 10-27-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380168)
Everyone likes to think their kool-aid is sweeter.

In my opinion...

Tier 6: Kia/Hyundai/Suzuki
Tier 5: Ford/Nissan/GM/Chrysler/Honda/Toyota
Tier 4: Lexus/Acura/Infiniti
Tier 3: BMW/Mercedes/Porsche/Audi/VW/Maserati/
Tier 2: Ferrari/Lamborghini/Aston Martin/Bently/Maybach
Tier 1: Rolls Royce/Bugatti/1-off type cars of uber-low production hand-made

Anyone in one tier above someone else who wants to talk smack about brand is just being an idiot imo. as many of the brands have vehicles that are worthy of a Tier higher or lower than the one the majority of their vehicles occupy. Once you move 2 tier levels, then you start to see some real gaps. At 3 tier levels, it's probably a different world, no-matter how loudly Hyundai wants to say that their paint is better than Mercedes.

lol mazadah didn't even make the importcovert list. :rofl2:

m4a1mustang 10-27-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1380172)
lol mazadah didn't even make the importcovert list. :rofl2:

:rofl2:

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1380157)
Some sort of safety feature.

The seats are solid and hold up. Everything on the Z is solid and holds up. Just keep an eye on oil consumption when new, add oil if needed, and you are gtg.

I know the '09's had an issue, but are the new Z's a problem once broken in? I know it will use oil for 500-1500 miles, as my Z06 and most every other new car I have heard about does/did, but once things seat in, is it G2G?

I really like the 370Z, it has a much more up-scale interior/look than my Z06 does on the inside. Outside the Z06 is sexier because it's lower, but I like the curvature of the 370Z better.

I guess my question with the 370Z is...is it like a knight in tin-foil, or is it as quality as it feels on first touch--through and through--. To me, it felt maybe 9.5 out of 10 as quality as a Cayman S except for the paint. (I did not drive the Cayman, just felt/sat/looked). I am just worried that at $40K, the car has an interior that looks $60K, and I hope that it doesn't fall apart like a $20K interior with extra money spent trying to put lipstick on a pig is all, if any of that makes sense?

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1380172)
lol mazadah didn't even make the importcovert list. :rofl2:

Mazda is a subsidiary of Ford, and unlike VW/Lamborghini, is not removed far enough in prestige (imo) to warrant it's own category. Jeez. I can't list them all. My all-potent opinion is narrower than that! :tiphat:

GZ3 10-27-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1380160)
It means that the person in question is letting reputation of the car or the brand get in their way of exploring or enjoying the vehicle.

huh....thats a good way of looking at it:tup:

m4a1mustang 10-27-2011 12:00 PM

It's not a Cayman but it's not a Geo Metro either.

Overall, it's a quality car. You get a lot for your dollar if you are looking for a 2 seat sports car.

Any new car can burn oil, and it's tough to put a mileage range on it because manufacturing tolerances can differ. As long as you keep an eye on things you will be fine. If oil consumption (if any) persists beyond your threshold of tolerance, Nissan will take care of you.

cossie1600 10-27-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380179)
Mazda is a subsidiary of Ford, and unlike VW/Lamborghini, is not removed far enough in prestige (imo) to warrant it's own category. Jeez. I can't list them all. My all-potent opinion is narrower than that! :tiphat:

Ford sold Mazda, same with Volvo.

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1380183)
It's not a Cayman but it's not a Geo Metro either.

Overall, it's a quality car. You get a lot for your dollar if you are looking for a 2 seat sports car.

Any new car can burn oil, and it's tough to put a mileage range on it because manufacturing tolerances can differ. As long as you keep an eye on things you will be fine. If oil consumption (if any) persists beyond your threshold of tolerance, Nissan will take care of you.

Sounds like the way to go. I'm just waiting for the '12s to hit the States at this point. 2 dealerships have already looked at my Z06 and lust for it. One sales person nearly left her soilage in my seat. People just can't wrap their heads around the fact that the Z06 isn't a regular 'vette.


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