2012s on lots....where are the oil coolers?

Red__Zed · 10-19-2011, 10:26 AM

You actually will see a notable drop with a good synth due to the poor lubrication qualities of the ester oil.

You're what, a Chem E grad student? Maybe a couple years working?

wstar · 10-19-2011, 10:42 AM

It's unlikely that their esters are super special anyways, most likely the esters found in many high-end synthetics these days are compatible and accomplish the same goal intended for the DLC while being better all-around oils. I think the point with the ester oil was not to run a crappy regular dino oil that was not only a poor oil to begin with, but also lacked the esters (i.e. if they didn't put out this oil and this recommendation, people might be taking the car to jiffy lube and getting random generic dino oil).

ClevelandCWRU · 10-19-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

You actually will see a notable drop with a good synth due to the poor lubrication qualities of the ester oil.

You're what, a Chem E grad student? Maybe a couple years working?

Nope. First of all, tribology is a mechanical engineering topic, not chemical engineering.

I worked in research for several years, now I work in industry.

ImportConvert · 10-19-2011, 10:53 AM

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Nope. First of all, tribology is a mechanical engineering topic, not chemical engineering.

I worked in research for several years, now I work in industry.

Well, since you work in research, you are familiar with all the BS that can be done by adjusting confidence intervals, Alpha, and all that jazz. I'm thinking Nissan did just a little of that...

ClevelandCWRU · 10-19-2011, 11:08 AM

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Well, since you work in research, you are familiar with all the BS that can be done by adjusting confidence intervals, Alpha, and all that jazz. I'm thinking Nissan did just a little of that...

You are entitled to your opinion, but I respectfully disagree. This isn't some fly-by-night lab run by a snake oil salesman. This is credible, published information, and recognized by professional societies the world over.

And it's not like Nissan is flaunting the science behind this to the public. It's not something the average person would care about, or even be able to understand.

Guard Dad · 10-19-2011, 11:19 AM

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Nope. First of all, tribology is a mechanical engineering topic, not chemical engineering.

I worked in research for several years, now I work in industry.

A question for you: In general reading on the subject I found that Red Line Synthetic oil (I have some on the shelf in preparation for my first at-home oil change in February) was classified as an ester oil, as such would it be an appropriate alternative to Nissans ester oil? On previous vehicles I haven't worried a great deal about which oil I used other than to make sure that it met the appropriate SAE spec. The Z if a different animal and I don't want to screw it up as I plan to keep the car a long (6-10 years) time.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

2011 Nismo#91 · 10-19-2011, 02:09 PM

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You're what, a Chem E grad student? Maybe a couple years working?

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Bingo. Tons of bright, technical people on here.
No need to be condescending to the group....

Red__Zed · 10-19-2011, 02:14 PM

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wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3596	It's unlikely that their esters are super special anyways, most likely the esters found in many high-end synthetics these days are compatible and accomplish the same goal intended for the DLC while being better all-around oils. I think the point with the ester oil was not to run a crappy regular dino oil that was not only a poor oil to begin with, but also lacked the esters (i.e. if they didn't put out this oil and this recommendation, people might be taking the car to jiffy lube and getting random generic dino oil). __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details Last edited by wstar; 10-19-2011 at 10:48 AM.

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Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 122	You actually will see a notable drop with a good synth due to the poor lubrication qualities of the ester oil. You're what, a Chem E grad student? Maybe a couple years working?