2012 Model Will Have OIl Cooler

NYBladeZ · 10-09-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

tell us how you really feel.

Sure! I love my Z, she's my baby and I'm going to keep her for a loooong time, God willing.

wilsonp · 10-10-2011, 12:00 AM

Does it bother anyone else that some cars never have the problem, and some have it pretty bad? Since we have the fortunate example of the same driver of a 2009 without and a 2011 with, it seems like there must something fairly significant different in individual engines to cause this.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-10-2011, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

Sure! I love my Z, she's my baby and I'm going to keep her for a loooong time, God willing.

BladeZ, where in ny you're from?

sucasa · 10-10-2011, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Any support you may need? Just pm or post a thread and I got your back.

It would be great if most of us on this forum can start a dialogue w/ corporate and see what their plan is for 2009 - 2012, knowing there is an issue which warranted the oil cooler on 2012 as standard equipment.

Everyone has an opinion on this subject, and alot of folks cry and whine and become complacent and deal w/ it, but unless owners speak up, and be proactive, nothing will get done.

Please refer to this link for potential contacts:

Nissan and Infiniti - Nissan North America Media Contacts

Jordo! · 10-10-2011, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

Does it bother anyone else that some cars never have the problem, and some have it pretty bad? Since we have the fortunate example of the same driver of a 2009 without and a 2011 with, it seems like there must something fairly significant different in individual engines to cause this.

Like the oil consumption issue... I think there's just a little too much variance in how the engines are being assembled.

Throw in the different theories and applications of break-in procedures and there you go...

Nissan's are pretty well built -- but they ain't quite Toyota or Honda just yet.

Hmm. Even though I don't desperately need it... after all this talk, now I want a Nissan oil cooler too. Wah.

BTW, go to the consumer page for NissanUSA (the link above just forwards matters like this to them anyway) if you want to email them -- just did that myself.

Link--> http://www.nissanusa.com/apps/contactus

CarsRfun · 10-10-2011, 07:12 AM

Wow, it's about time, they were brain dead to leave it out on the earlier models...maybe they were trying to make the car lighter by eliminating it...

spearfish25 · 10-10-2011, 07:37 AM

Funny that you guys think Nissan will retroactively install oil coolers on 3 years of previously produced cars. It's not like the 2009 models are all sitting in the junk yard. I bet Nissan hasn't had a single repair expense related to the lack of oil coolers (you get limp mode, not a damaged motor). Just a multitude of complaints.

I would agree that the factory installed cooler will be sub-optimal for track work. If they install a 25row oil cooler or bigger, people won't get their engine to operating temp in colder climates...thermostatic plates don't even help with this.

ihatepotholes · 10-10-2011, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Funny that you guys think Nissan will retroactively install oil coolers on 3 years of previously produced cars. It's not like the 2009 models are all sitting in the junk yard. I bet Nissan hasn't had a single repair expense related to the lack of oil coolers (you get limp mode, not a damaged motor). Just a multitude of complaints.

I would agree that the factory installed cooler will be sub-optimal for track work. If they install a 25row oil cooler or bigger, people won't get their engine to operating temp in colder climates...thermostatic plates don't even help with this.

what's a proper size Oil cooler for our Z? given that i don't plan on hitting the track, but i do some spirited driving every now and then. and i live in the north east.

m4a1mustang · 10-10-2011, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

what's a proper size Oil cooler for our Z? given that i don't plan on hitting the track, but i do some spirited driving every now and then. and i live in the north east.

A 10-19 row cooler is probably sufficient for street use depending on your climate. Though I wouldn't even worry about adding an oil cooler unless you actually find that your style of driving is getting the temps too hot for your comfort.

Track guys like to run 25+ row, but if you run this on the street you'll have to fab some sort of partial cover for colder months so you can get your oil temps up to safe operating ranges.

NYBladeZ · 10-10-2011, 10:14 AM

You know what's sad, is that a well known shop on here posted a picture on fb of an oil cooler install. When I asked what they will do for the winter months and if they are making a shroud they said the thermo plate takes care of this issue. Now we all know it doesn't, kind of upset me hearing it from them, I know they know better.

Nissan will not retroactively install oil coolers, and I doubt if they do so in the future it will be a 19 row or more. If it was going to happen, it would have happened by now. They probably knew about the issue and to prevent any engine damage/warranty issues they programmed limp mode. Just go buy an oil cooler people, its not the end of the world, though the end may come long before Nissan gives you an oil cooler worth a damn.

370Zsteve · 10-10-2011, 10:22 AM

Just curious...if Nissan comes out with a 400Z in the future, are y'all going to demand the bigger engine as a free retrofit? I mean, yours won't have one and all.

I'm surprised all the 240Z owners aren't all riled up about their lack of aluminum doors.

NYBladeZ · 10-10-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

BladeZ, where in ny you're from?

Currently in Jamaica Queens as I love waking up at the last second and walking to school. Spent most of my life in Brooklyn, Nassau and Suffolk County while working in the city. I'm all about the 5 boroughs!

370Zsteve · 10-10-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

Currently in Jamaica Queens as I love waking up at the last second and walking to school. Spent most of my life in Brooklyn, Nassau and Suffolk County while working in the city. I'm all about the 5 boroughs!

A True Metrosexual.

kenchan · 10-10-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

If they install a 25row oil cooler or bigger, people won't get their engine to operating temp in colder climates...thermostatic plates don't even help with this.

yah, this is another side effect im wondering about for those that dailydrive your Z's especially short distances (short as in 10miles or less one trip).

theDreamer · 10-10-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, this is another side effect im wondering about for those that dailydrive your Z's especially short distances (short as in 10miles or less one trip).

Add boost, helps warm up the oil quickly.

10-10-2011, 12:00 AM	#77 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 16	Does it bother anyone else that some cars never have the problem, and some have it pretty bad? Since we have the fortunate example of the same driver of a 2009 without and a 2011 with, it seems like there must something fairly significant different in individual engines to cause this. __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

10-10-2011, 07:37 AM	#82 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Funny that you guys think Nissan will retroactively install oil coolers on 3 years of previously produced cars. It's not like the 2009 models are all sitting in the junk yard. I bet Nissan hasn't had a single repair expense related to the lack of oil coolers (you get limp mode, not a damaged motor). Just a multitude of complaints. I would agree that the factory installed cooler will be sub-optimal for track work. If they install a 25row oil cooler or bigger, people won't get their engine to operating temp in colder climates...thermostatic plates don't even help with this. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

10-10-2011, 10:14 AM	#85 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	You know what's sad, is that a well known shop on here posted a picture on fb of an oil cooler install. When I asked what they will do for the winter months and if they are making a shroud they said the thermo plate takes care of this issue. Now we all know it doesn't, kind of upset me hearing it from them, I know they know better. Nissan will not retroactively install oil coolers, and I doubt if they do so in the future it will be a 19 row or more. If it was going to happen, it would have happened by now. They probably knew about the issue and to prevent any engine damage/warranty issues they programmed limp mode. Just go buy an oil cooler people, its not the end of the world, though the end may come long before Nissan gives you an oil cooler worth a damn. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

10-10-2011, 10:22 AM	#86 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 42	Just curious...if Nissan comes out with a 400Z in the future, are y'all going to demand the bigger engine as a free retrofit? I mean, yours won't have one and all. I'm surprised all the 240Z owners aren't all riled up about their lack of aluminum doors. __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

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