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Originally Posted by ImportConvert They haven't have a Z51 in the better part of half a decade. Like said, the seats are re-designed for '12 as well. Also, a set

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Old 05-18-2011, 10:12 AM   #76 (permalink)
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They haven't have a Z51 in the better part of half a decade. Like said, the seats are re-designed for '12 as well. Also, a set of seats isn't a big deal, won't void a warranty, and won't cost an arm and a leg.



Yes, and the 370Z will be "Collegemobile 5000". All cars will now be named after their stereotypical demographic, lol.

Part of the reason kids have 370Z's and older people or older kids like myself (at 25, I consider myself a kid compared to many) have Z06's and whatnot is because of income (or lack), not because one was designed for a certain age. It was designed for a certain income-level. The target median income of the average Z06 owner in 2006 was $130K according to GM's market study before releasing the car per their sales DVD that I lucked into buying from someone on another forum (Dealer item only).

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I'm really not seeing anything extraordinary about either. You will note, though, the HIGHER BOLSTERS on the corvette seat.

The only OEM seats on cars under $100K I can think of that are full of win for the track are in the Viper.
First off I want to say that I am definitely a hater since you are only 25 and have a brand new Z06. LOL. More importantly I would like to know how the hell can you afford or want to pay the Louisiana insurance rate on a vehicle like that? Out of curiousity, what do you pay per month? Our insurance rates are stupid high in Louisiana. Its stupid.

I also wanted to disagree with you comment about the interior quality of the vette. IMHO it has one of if nothe worst interiors I have ever been in, and it was a huge turn off when I test drove a loaded out 09.

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[QUOTE=ImportConvert;1117525]They haven't have a Z51 in the better part of half a decade. Like said, the seats are re-designed for '12 as well. Also, a set of seats isn't a big deal, won't void a warranty, and won't cost an arm and a leg.


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Pretty sure it's still an option, regardless of any changes to the seats it may have I added that for relevance. My point was that in my personal experience, when I drove the Vette I was sliding all over the seat, while I don't in the Z. Yes the Vette was leather, and my Z is the cloth upholstery, so that very well could have made the difference. My seat of the pants impression (literally) was that there was very little hip bolstering. With the majority of Vette owners using them for boulevard cruisers and what not, I would also hazard a guess that few of them are keen to drop $1k+ on a new set of seats. And I'm not saying they lacked bolstering on spirited driving only, it was in routine cornering I found myself sliding
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First off I want to say that I am definitely a hater since you are only 25 and have a brand new Z06. LOL. More importantly I would like to know how the hell can you afford or want to pay the Louisiana insurance rate on a vehicle like that? Out of curiousity, what do you pay per month? Our insurance rates are stupid high in Louisiana. Its stupid.

I also wanted to disagree with you comment about the interior quality of the vette. IMHO it has one of if nothe worst interiors I have ever been in, and it was a huge turn off when I test drove a loaded out 09.
The whole vette interior is terrible. Its a slap in the face to open the door of a vette then see the price tag. Its like you pay. 30k for the engine. 50k for the suspension and tires. (Which still needs tuning) and 5k for the rest of the car. The vette just doesn't divi up as a brand new ride.
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I haven't looked at the interior of a current model Corvette, but I thought the Centennial edition for 2012 looked pretty nice.
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The whole vette interior is terrible. Its a slap in the face to open the door of a vette then see the price tag. Its like you pay. 30k for the engine. 50k for the suspension and tires. (Which still needs tuning) and 5k for the rest of the car. The vette just doesn't divi up as a brand new ride.
I couldnt agree more. My buddy had an S2000, and he thought it had the worst interior out there for the longest which I thought was crazy. I told him go test drive a vette one day. Well that day came and lets just say he couldnt believe that people actually bought the car in that condition. I would love to grab the next gen vette, but if the interior doesnt se a significant upgrade, I wont look twice at it.
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how did this thread go from what the OP asked... our opinions on the Z overall versus his bmw.... to talks about Vette interiors?!?!?! what a waste of a read
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how did this thread go from what the OP asked... our opinions on the Z overall versus his bmw.... to talks about Vette interiors?!?!?! what a waste of a read
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Veering back on course, as the two girls yelling at me at from several cars back at a stoplight this morning can attest, the Z has wow factor
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Some girls were yelling at me today, too, though it wasn't because of the Z's wow factor which it has in great abundance, mind you. No, they were yelling at me because I cut them off. Some people are just a**holes, you know?
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I've put 37,000 miles on my 09 and I plan to keep the damn thing until I cant get gas anymore. I love this car.. The Bose system that mine came with kicks, I have no idea what the other guy was talking about. A sub-woofer and 6 speakers is pretty good in my book. Maybe there is a base model stereo,i dont know... Mine has the Sport and Touring package.

My only complaint is this noise above the visor that started out as a click and is now a creak. I took it to the dealer when it was still a click so I'm hoping that when I bring it in now they can find and fix the noise.

The ride quality is entirely dependent on the tires you buy and the tire pressure you use. The OEM tires are like stone at 35lbs, they are noisy and they suck.
If you spend a $1000 you can decent tires, if your spend 1400 you can get the Michelin PS2s which will give you so much cornering traction that it's hard to stay in the friggin drivers seat ! lol These tires disappear every 6 months though so they are not cheap to run.

The suspension works like magic, if you really like to throw your car around some turns you'll love this car.
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First off I want to say that I am definitely a hater since you are only 25 and have a brand new Z06. LOL. More importantly I would like to know how the hell can you afford or want to pay the Louisiana insurance rate on a vehicle like that? Out of curiousity, what do you pay per month? Our insurance rates are stupid high in Louisiana. Its stupid.

I also wanted to disagree with you comment about the interior quality of the vette. IMHO it has one of if nothe worst interiors I have ever been in, and it was a huge turn off when I test drove a loaded out 09.
I pay $242/mo for my cars. My Z06 accounts for $175 of that, and that is only because I got the free replacement option. If my car is totaled within 3 years, I go pick out a new one, and they pick up the tab for me.

Yes, this rate is bad, but in LA, it is GOOD.

Do I WANT to pay it? No, not really. Do I think it's worth it to enjoy the car? Yes.

How can I afford it? I went to college on scholarships, I didn't **** around and change majors a half-dozen times, I graduated on schedule, and went and got a job.

I had been building my credit for about 2.5 years before I got this car. This car is getting my foot in the door for a trade up in 2013 for a Z06 with more amenities (maybe 2 or 3LZ trim level this time), F55 suspension, etc. This is the first car I have financed, and I was just happy they allowed it. It kicks ***, but I want a few different options I didn't get this go-around, and I would like the LAST of the C6 body style as the C7 will not have as much power as the C6 Z06, and you know how the first few years of any car have bugs. The C6 has been polished and perfected for a while, and they aren't done yet.

So, that's how I got here, and that's where I'm going. I live relatively "small", don't party all the time, and invest in my hobbies because that's what makes me smile.
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The whole vette interior is terrible. Its a slap in the face to open the door of a vette then see the price tag. Its like you pay. 30k for the engine. 50k for the suspension and tires. (Which still needs tuning) and 5k for the rest of the car. The vette just doesn't divi up as a brand new ride.
I agree it's not the greatest, but to go that far? No, not really. Especially if you get the 2 or 3LZ.

What about it do you not like? I mean yes, it is not the greatest, but all I see are "The interior sucks". Yet noone can tell you why. The seats used to be the biggest gripe, but any factory seat short of the Viper's or a few other cars sucks in a car that pulls 1G on street tires.

Why don't you define how the 'vette's interior sucks?

Oh, they also corrected the crap sterio issue. That was an issue I do agree! They re-did it for '12.

GM has finally "gotten the memo" and is fixing it.

As for "$30K for an engine", yes, that's pretty close to what the driveline in my car retails for. Crate engine is about $15K, Transmission is another $5K, and the clutch, half-shafts, driveshaft, torque-tube, etc. rack up another 10K I am quite sure, especially if you include all the coolers for the diff, trans, oil, etc.

The suspension is about $800 per leaf, which is $1600, plus the massive Brembo's, plus...well, lets put it this way, if you built a Z06 from parts on another car, it would sure as heck weigh more than the 3100 and change mine does, and it would easily cost more. It also wouldn't come with a 5/100 driveline warranty.

The 'vette is a very well-made car, and for '12 it got a lot better. It had a PPH of only 62 when I watched them build mine. I don't think Nissan even publishes their PPH #'s or will release them. I am curious what the 370Z is sitting at. Part of the appeal with the corvette is that YOU can go and watch them build it. That way you know the quality of the work being done. There is no question in your mind. YOU WATCHED IT HAPPEN. I am glad I went and did this. You can run off at the mouth about how well made a car is, but you don't have a clue unless you watched it happen, you're just talking about some number you read or some CR review. I watched my car be built from half a dozen feet away, and closer at times. I know it was made well GM is the only company that allows this that I am aware of besides VW in one of their factories overseas. I'm proud of the low PPH the 'vette has, but am even more proud that I watched the process myself. A number is just a number, but being a part of something means a lot more.

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I couldnt agree more. My buddy had an S2000, and he thought it had the worst interior out there for the longest which I thought was crazy. I told him go test drive a vette one day. Well that day came and lets just say he couldnt believe that people actually bought the car in that condition. I would love to grab the next gen vette, but if the interior doesnt se a significant upgrade, I wont look twice at it.
GM claims Audi is their target goal for interior quality in the new C7. When GM makes a promise/statement on the corvette, I have NEVER seen them disappoint. If they step out and make the claim, they usually back it up.

That being said, I am quite happy with the current Z06's interior, with the '12 only making it better. I am not a huge NAV junkie, so that doesn't bother me. The OEM NAV IS! crap, though, I will give you that one without a single word of argument. Other than that, Interior is nice.

I think it's just popular to bash American car's interiors.

I remember when the 350Z was out how everyone on the forum was dogging on my WS6 saying the 350Z had a much nicer interior. Well, I went out and took a ride in a 350Z and am here to say that NO, it was NOT nicer than my WS6. My WS6 had way less plastic, way fewer rattles, and looked a helluva lot nicer.

The current '12 car with 3LZ option is equivalent to the Touring 370Z in every way but the NAV system imo.

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Thinking about trading my 2003 BMW 330ci in for a 370z sport/touring or Nismo edition. Do you guys really love the 370z? I like it a lot but do y'all feel it is a $35,000 car?
It mentions a BMW, and implies interest in most other cars in that price-range.

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I just want something more fun. I would like to put a twin turbo kit, etc on the car. Ne'er owned a turbo ride before but wasn't going to waste the money on something I didn't think was worth turboing. Don't really plan on abusing the car but want a fun car to play with. I think the Z is it. Just wanted a few opinions.
^This is the second post in the thread made by the OP. It implies that anything under 6-figures is game for discussion as OP is talking about a $15K turbo kit on a $35K car and then goes on about rims, carbon-fiber, and other things in later posts. It is obvious that a Z06 is easily affordable to this person, or that they are running off at the mouth/have no clue. I presume that since OP has a BMW, they are familiar enough with cars/financing enough to know that none of those mods are finance-able and are fine paying $20K out of pocket for them. Therefor, the Z06 is relevant to this discussion at this price-point. OP is looking to spend $50-75K (depending on how the Z is modded) and wants opinions.

My opinion is that that $75K is better spent on a car that needs no mods to equal the modded Z. I went through the exact same thing and went that route and am happy I did. You would have to bury me in the TT 370Z because you would never sell such a car for anywhere near what you had in it. I will have + equity in my Z06 by Jan. of 2013 and I just put 10% down.

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