Bad Driving Habits (M/T)

Mai-z · 02-23-2012, 11:13 AM

Well I guess I just assumed. Now that I think about it, it's a part of natural wear. This is a question to be asked. Does anyone have info on this?

ZMan8 · 02-23-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mai-z

Well I guess I just assumed. Now that I think about it, it's a part of natural wear. This is a question to be asked. Does anyone have info on this?

Im pretty sure any part that goes through a wear and tear process is not covered: tires, wiper blades, clutch, oil, trany fluid, differential fluid, etc) In order for it to be covered under warranty I think you need to prove there was a manufacturing flaw that made it wear out quicker, which in the case of clutch is very hard to prove.

Nick911sc · 02-23-2012, 11:22 AM

It's not covered under warranty, unless I believe that the wear on the clutch is due to a malfunction of another part of the vehicle (clutch not engaging properly, not driver error) But regardless, if/when my clutch burns out... I'll happily put in an aftermarket setup and get rid of this horrid dual mass flywheel setup.

lol1234 · 02-23-2012, 11:30 AM

I would like to see the source on the whole coasting in neutral is less MPG than leaving it in gear.

I did this in my old 350Z all the time but it didn't have a live MPG computer. My GTO has one and the MPG is much higher when coasting in neutral as opposed to leaving it in gear. I read this thread yesterday and just tested it on my way to work.

lol1234 · 02-23-2012, 11:35 AM

Coasting in Neutral or Gear to Save Gas - Coasting and Fuel Economy - Popular Mechanics

found a good article on it

I think in my case since the car computes the distance into the live MPG, it makes it seem like I am using less fuel when I am actually using more. At idle the live MPG computer does show I am getting very bad gas mileage.

Gauge · 02-23-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Keep it in neutral until you know the light will change. Holding down clutch wears the throwout bearing.

Really? So to clarify you should go to nuetral, brake(obviously) then take foot off clutch and put it back on when you go to move (after green)?

I really didn't know this was dangerous to cars... I've went nuetral and held clutch in with brake for years and years lol.

Mt Tam I am · 02-23-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mai-z

Back on to topic. Here's something a little funny to think about. I have warranty up to 75k miles. Should I have fun with my z and have the clutch go out at 50k and then baby it from then? Or baby it now and risk natural wear having it go out at 80?

Not saying I dog my Z or that i'll even have it till my warranty run out. But with that kind of warranty is all of the meticulous driving worth it?

Have fun with the car now and maybe the clutch will last anyway.

Mt Tam I am · 02-23-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gauge

Really? So to clarify you should go to nuetral, brake(obviously) then take foot off clutch and put it back on when you go to move (after green)?

I really didn't know this was dangerous to cars... I've went nuetral and held clutch in with brake for years and years lol.

Dangerous is a bit overstated but Ken is correct. When the clutch is depressed it is now wearing, but do not go nuts about this fact or you will not enjoy the car. It is not like doing a burn out while riding the clutch.

Besides if the car is in neautral, why hold in the clutch?

Jeffblue · 02-23-2012, 02:37 PM

how many of you guys just let the car roll around at idle in 1st gear if you need to go very slowly with the clutch fully engaged and your foot not on the gas? some people dont realize, but you can basically just idle and move the car around like you would in an automatic with your foot off the brake.

Drex · 02-23-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

Im pretty sure any part that goes through a wear and tear process is not covered: tires, wiper blades, clutch, oil, trany fluid, differential fluid, etc) In order for it to be covered under warranty I think you need to prove there was a manufacturing flaw that made it wear out quicker, which in the case of clutch is very hard to prove.

i actually had my wiper blades replaced under warranty at my first oil change. they were streaking, and the service tech said that was a known issue on the factory wiper blades from nissan/infinity, so they replaced them for free.

only now the new ones are streaking again (replaced in Oct last year).

Drex · 02-23-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gauge

Really? So to clarify you should go to nuetral, brake(obviously) then take foot off clutch and put it back on when you go to move (after green)?

I really didn't know this was dangerous to cars... I've went nuetral and held clutch in with brake for years and years lol.

yep, i had to pay ~$1500 for a new clutch on my rsx at 55k miles because the throwout bearing went due to this behavior. learned the hard way

ZMan8 · 02-23-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Drex

i actually had my wiper blades replaced under warranty at my first oil change. they were streaking, and the service tech said that was a known issue on the factory wiper blades from nissan/infinity, so they replaced them for free.

only now the new ones are streaking again (replaced in Oct last year).

Well having to replace wiper blades after a few months is abnormal, therefore, covered by warranty. In that situation its easy to prove its a manufacturing defect. Especially since it's hard to accelerate wiper blade wear. Tires and clutch are easy to wear out quick depending on driving habits.

Edit: also if wiper blade is streaking, check to see if you have any minor chips in the windshield.

Drex · 02-23-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

Well having to replace wiper blades after a few months is abnormal, therefore, covered by warranty. In that situation its easy to prove its a manufacturing defect. Especially since it's hard to accelerate wiper blade wear. Tires and clutch are easy to wear out quick depending on driving habits.

Edit: also if wiper blade is streaking, check to see if you have any minor chips in the windshield.

hmm, i'll check it out thanks

Z_Girl · 02-23-2012, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by kenchan
Keep it in neutral until you know the light will change. Holding down clutch wears the throwout bearing.

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Originally Posted by Armonster

file this one under "taking it too far"

Nah, I gotta agree with kenchan, I always keep it in neutral at lights. Who wants to have to hold the clutch in the whole time anyways?

Gauge · 02-23-2012, 05:26 PM

I don't know why I hold the clutch in even while in neutral... Just a bad habit I guess. I like shifting...feels good.

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02-23-2012, 11:22 AM	#123 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	It's not covered under warranty, unless I believe that the wear on the clutch is due to a malfunction of another part of the vehicle (clutch not engaging properly, not driver error) But regardless, if/when my clutch burns out... I'll happily put in an aftermarket setup and get rid of this horrid dual mass flywheel setup.

02-23-2012, 11:30 AM	#124 (permalink)
lol1234 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Jersey Posts: 73 Drives: Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 13	I would like to see the source on the whole coasting in neutral is less MPG than leaving it in gear. I did this in my old 350Z all the time but it didn't have a live MPG computer. My GTO has one and the MPG is much higher when coasting in neutral as opposed to leaving it in gear. I read this thread yesterday and just tested it on my way to work.

02-23-2012, 11:35 AM	#125 (permalink)
lol1234 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Jersey Posts: 73 Drives: Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 13	Coasting in Neutral or Gear to Save Gas - Coasting and Fuel Economy - Popular Mechanics found a good article on it I think in my case since the car computes the distance into the live MPG, it makes it seem like I am using less fuel when I am actually using more. At idle the live MPG computer does show I am getting very bad gas mileage.

02-23-2012, 02:37 PM	#129 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	how many of you guys just let the car roll around at idle in 1st gear if you need to go very slowly with the clutch fully engaged and your foot not on the gas? some people dont realize, but you can basically just idle and move the car around like you would in an automatic with your foot off the brake.

02-23-2012, 05:26 PM	#135 (permalink)
Gauge Track Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Madison WI Posts: 867 Drives: 2012 370Z Nismo PW Rep Power: 14	I don't know why I hold the clutch in even while in neutral... Just a bad habit I guess. I like shifting...feels good.