The infamous "break-in" period.

frost · 04-08-2009, 09:32 PM

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but with the "black box" tracking more and more of what we do every couple years, don't be surprised if you start seeing warranty issues denied due to not following their break in rules in the future.

SoCal 370Z · 04-08-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but with the "black box" tracking more and more of what we do every couple years, don't be surprised if you start seeing warranty issues denied due to not following their break in rules in the future.

This is the very thing I've wondered about and occasionally mentioned here too. Porsche will void your warranty when you do the wrong thing. Just how much information is stored in ECU? Redlines? Overheating? 160-mph junkets in blue 370z's.

theDreamer · 04-08-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

This is the very thing I've wondered about and occasionally mentioned here too. Porsche will void your warranty when you do the wrong thing. Just how much information is stored in ECU? Redlines? Overheating? 160-mph junkets in blue 370z's.

These black boxes can record almost anything electronic (which as we all know is getting close to everything), but individual states have to approve the use of these in cases. Insurance companies cannot just use them against you at will, there are laws protecting the drive, now manufacturers is a different story and a tougher battle.

355890 · 04-08-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

These black boxes can record almost anything electronic (which as we all know is getting close to everything), but individual states have to approve the use of these in cases. Insurance companies cannot just use them against you at will, there are laws protecting the drive, now manufacturers is a different story and a tougher battle.

In Texas...the insurance companies in this state are very sly, cunning, and questionable at the best of times.

OnCallZ · 04-08-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

These black boxes can record almost anything electronic (which as we all know is getting close to everything), but individual states have to approve the use of these in cases. Insurance companies cannot just use them against you at will, there are laws protecting the drive, now manufacturers is a different story and a tougher battle.

I can foresee black boxes being used by law enforcement, that could work either way though. If somebody claims that they didn't speed and they genuinely didn't. The black box will be the angel and the devil

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WikiAnswers - How should you 'break-in' a new car

"Most modern car engines are broken in at the factory, before assembly. Therefore the old tradition of breaking in a new car doesn't apply anymore. Just drive as you normally would drive and treat the car the way you would treat anything else of value."

Amon · 04-08-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

160-mph junkets in blue 370z's.

Schwany · 04-08-2009, 10:04 PM

I dont know about Nissan so I cant say how they test there vehicles, but I do build the RX for Lexus and I can say that the tests we put it through before it comes "off-line" and ready to ship, make any reasoning for a 'break-in' period, mute

tbonesteak · 04-11-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Schwany

I dont know about Nissan so I cant say how they test there vehicles, but I do build the RX for Lexus and I can say that the tests we put it through before it comes "off-line" and ready to ship, make any reasoning for a 'break-in' period, mute

Wow very interesting information, from an actual builder from Lexus. So can you elaborate on what kind of testing is done prior to delivery? Thanks.

LaSeeno · 04-11-2009, 01:58 PM

All these ideas are pretty much hogwash imo.

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

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The Problem With "Easy Break In" ...
The honed crosshatch pattern in the cylinder bore acts like a file to allow the rings to wear. The rings quickly wear down the "peaks" of this roughness, regardless of how hard the engine is run.

There's a very small window of opportunity to get the rings to seal really well ... the first 20 miles !!

If the rings aren't forced against the walls soon enough, they'll use up the roughness before they fully seat. Once that happens there is no solution but to re hone the cylinders, install new rings and start over again.

semtex · 04-09-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

This is the very thing I've wondered about and occasionally mentioned here too. Porsche will void your warranty when you do the wrong thing. Just how much information is stored in ECU? Redlines? Overheating? 160-mph junkets in blue 370z's.

I have no earthly idea who you could be referring to with that last little bit about 160-mph junkets.

MightyBobo · 04-10-2009, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

I have no earthly idea who you could be referring to with that last little bit about 160-mph junkets.

Heathens.

JTso · 04-10-2009, 07:10 PM

Some actual data (instead of speculation) from the different approach (break-in easy or drive it hard) would be nice. Do a compression, leak down, and oil analysis test, as well as a couple of dyno runs after a predetermined miles would show the effect of each approach.

AARC51 · 04-08-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but with the "black box" tracking more and more of what we do every couple years, don't be surprised if you start seeing warranty issues denied due to not following their break in rules in the future.

Are there Nissan break-in guidelines to be followed? I haven't read the manual that much yet...

AK370Z · 04-09-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AARC51

Are there Nissan break-in guidelines to be followed? I haven't read the manual that much yet...

other related threads:

Break-In a New Car

Break In Period?

Here's my point of view, I am not an engineer. I just listen to what those knowledgeable/highly paid Nissan Engineers want me to do.

thispecialk · 08-06-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

other related threads:

Break-In a New Car

Break In Period?

Here's my point of view, I am not an engineer. I just listen to what those knowledgeable/highly paid Nissan Engineers want me to do.

dammit i already drove my car about 4000 i stay under 5k well that shows i dont like reading manual lol

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frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but with the "black box" tracking more and more of what we do every couple years, don't be surprised if you start seeing warranty issues denied due to not following their break in rules in the future.

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Schwany Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 19 Drives: 03 Sentra SER Spec V Rep Power: 18	I dont know about Nissan so I cant say how they test there vehicles, but I do build the RX for Lexus and I can say that the tests we put it through before it comes "off-line" and ready to ship, make any reasoning for a 'break-in' period, mute

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JTso Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: WA Posts: 12 Drives: Hopefully a 370Z Rep Power: 18	Some actual data (instead of speculation) from the different approach (break-in easy or drive it hard) would be nice. Do a compression, leak down, and oil analysis test, as well as a couple of dyno runs after a predetermined miles would show the effect of each approach.