Trade-in for a Cayman S. :)

cab83_750 · 12-13-2010, 10:24 AM

Cool and very well said; thank you.

I would love a 993S in my driveway or an 89 Speedster ---- they just command high $$ for their year.

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I would love looking at a Cayman in my driveway because I do think it's a gorgeous car.

As for point 2., I was trying to be brief with my response. Sure, there are plenty of esoteric, intangible reasons to purchase one comparable item over another aside from name cache... I was going with an obvious analogy.
While I've never owned a Porsche, I've had plenty of opportunities to log seat time at SCCA and PCA events, so I think I get it.

Zeto · 12-13-2010, 10:41 AM

A little bit off topic what kind of sways do you have?

kenchan · 12-13-2010, 10:42 AM

mine are black.

man you guys are still having this discussion???

cab83_750 · 12-13-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeto

A little bit off topic what kind of sways do you have?

Stillen.

ImportConvert · 12-13-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I would love looking at a Cayman in my driveway because I do think it's a gorgeous car.

As for point 2., I was trying to be brief with my response. Sure, there are plenty of esoteric, intangible reasons to purchase one comparable item over another aside from name cache... I was going with an obvious analogy.
While I've never owned a Porsche, I've had plenty of opportunities to log seat time at SCCA and PCA events, so I think I get it.

From the porsche owners I have talked to, it's also about the experience. Go service your nissan, then go service your porsche. Two ENTIRELY different dealership experiences based on what I have seen/been told by people who did both. Owning a Porsche is like showing up with a Black Centurian. Everyone makes sure you get the BEST they have to offer. Owning a Z, is, well, it's a nissan. The coffee is to the left, and I think there are some old magazines for you in the corner. Be a few hours.

spearfish25 · 12-13-2010, 04:10 PM

^This is true, BUT...

You'll pay $800 to service your Porsche while you'll pay $200 to service your Nissan. Money buys luxury, both in the car and out.

And I've been there with my Audis before. It's still just a shitty cup of coffee while you wait (labeled with Starbucks instead of Folgers). I just liked looking at S5s and R8s while I waited rather than Muranos and Maximas.

kenchan · 12-13-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

From the porsche owners I have talked to, it's also about the experience. Go service your nissan, then go service your porsche. Two ENTIRELY different dealership experiences based on what I have seen/been told by people who did both. Owning a Porsche is like showing up with a Black Centurian. Everyone makes sure you get the BEST they have to offer. Owning a Z, is, well, it's a nissan. The coffee is to the left, and I think there are some old magazines for you in the corner. Be a few hours.

yah but when you take your G20 to infiniti they tell you to wait outside...

URNEXT! · 12-13-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Eh, what section are you hanging out in? TONS! of modded 'vettes in the Z06 section. I see cam/E85 conversions claiming 600+whp all the time, etc. Lots of FI, on and on. Way more modding happening there than the "Should I get a Nismo cat-back and does it need a tune?" going on here.

I laughed at this comparison but you're right. I don't know if it's the small aftermarket that's available to us, junk economy or a combination of things but the "mod culture" is a little different for the 370. It would be cool to see more nasty 370s on the forums and I hope with time more will be built. I see great potential with the VVL

For the OP thinking about the Cayman... wouldn't get it. I think it's one of those cars you would be happy with for 6 months and then regret the purchase. I would get into a used C6 ZO6, Viper or even a GTR for the price range of that car.

LunaZ · 12-13-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

^This is true, BUT...

You'll pay $800 to service your Porsche while you'll pay $200 to service your Nissan. Money buys luxury, both in the car and out.

And I've been there with my Audis before. It's still just a shitty cup of coffee while you wait (labeled with Starbucks instead of Folgers). I just liked looking at S5s and R8s while I waited rather than Muranos and Maximas.

I took my wife's Mercedes to the dealer for a service and it was indeed a posh experience that is on par with flying First Class and having a pass to the Admiral's Club.
The difference here is that I have to pay for the Mercedes service and my job pays for the travel that garners me the miles for upgrades and perks.

mick · 12-13-2010, 05:15 PM

haha. this reminds me of the time i visited the corvette forum. a corvette owner complained about the price the dealer had charged him for an oil change. another guy chimed in. "i am a porsche owner," he said, "and every time i say hello to my mechanic, he would charge me $200"

Maxima09 · 12-13-2010, 06:20 PM

I have been in the same spot, got a Maxima, its an 09, but Ive been shopping other cars since about 6 months into owning it...not that the Maxima isn't a great car, it really is...but if you don't buy what you want you will always go back on it and it always costs money!

alan93rsa · 12-14-2010, 12:33 AM

If you get a Cayman S go for a Gen 2 with the new DFI engine. The PDK transmission is an amazing piece of engineering. If you go for the PDK be sure the car has Sport Chrono. I had one in my '09' S and the car was a ball on the track.

I can't remember if it was Car and Driver or Road and Track that did the comparison of the cars at VIR. If you haven't read it it is a worthwhile read. The Cayman S and the Carrera S, both with PDK, turned the same lap times. But the really interesting thing was how close the 370Z was to the Porsches. It's something to think about.

Also, if you can find a lightly used 2010 car optioned the way you want it's possible to end up with a longer warranty. A Porsche CPO will give you 6 years/100,000 miles. You may also want to shop out of state. I just traded my Cayman S for a Carrera S. I couldn't touch the deal I got in Chicago with either of my local dealers.

Good luck with your decision.

ImportConvert · 12-14-2010, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

^This is true, BUT...

You'll pay $800 to service your Porsche while you'll pay $200 to service your Nissan. Money buys luxury, both in the car and out.
And I've been there with my Audis before. It's still just a shitty cup of coffee while you wait (labeled with Starbucks instead of Folgers). I just liked looking at S5s and R8s while I waited rather than Muranos and Maximas.

Correct. Porsche is marketed to people who make 150K a year.

ImportConvert · 12-14-2010, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by URNEXT!

I laughed at this comparison but you're right. I don't know if it's the small aftermarket that's available to us, junk economy or a combination of things but the "mod culture" is a little different for the 370. It would be cool to see more nasty 370s on the forums and I hope with time more will be built. I see great potential with the VVL

For the OP thinking about the Cayman... wouldn't get it. I think it's one of those cars you would be happy with for 6 months and then regret the purchase. I would get into a used C6 ZO6, Viper or even a GTR for the price range of that car.

That is why the Cayman R was only a passing fancy for me. It would be nice. It would be pretty. However, every time I saw a Z06 drop the hammer, I would think "Damn. I drive a high 12-second car. This is boring. Been here, done this."

LunaZ · 12-14-2010, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Correct. Porsche is marketed to people who make 150K a year.

..and don't pay a mortgage, have kids, save for college and invest for retirement, take vacations or have other vehicles as daily drivers. Let's not forget taxes.
If $150K was all that, I would have bought something more expensive than my Z, like a Porsche... or a new Z08

12-13-2010, 04:10 PM	#66 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	^This is true, BUT... You'll pay $800 to service your Porsche while you'll pay $200 to service your Nissan. Money buys luxury, both in the car and out. And I've been there with my Audis before. It's still just a shitty cup of coffee while you wait (labeled with Starbucks instead of Folgers). I just liked looking at S5s and R8s while I waited rather than Muranos and Maximas. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

12-14-2010, 12:33 AM	#72 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 220	If you get a Cayman S go for a Gen 2 with the new DFI engine. The PDK transmission is an amazing piece of engineering. If you go for the PDK be sure the car has Sport Chrono. I had one in my '09' S and the car was a ball on the track. I can't remember if it was Car and Driver or Road and Track that did the comparison of the cars at VIR. If you haven't read it it is a worthwhile read. The Cayman S and the Carrera S, both with PDK, turned the same lap times. But the really interesting thing was how close the 370Z was to the Porsches. It's something to think about. Also, if you can find a lightly used 2010 car optioned the way you want it's possible to end up with a longer warranty. A Porsche CPO will give you 6 years/100,000 miles. You may also want to shop out of state. I just traded my Cayman S for a Carrera S. I couldn't touch the deal I got in Chicago with either of my local dealers. Good luck with your decision. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

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12-13-2010, 10:41 AM	#62 (permalink)
Zeto Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North NJ Age: 40 Posts: 766 Drives: 09 Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 267	A little bit off topic what kind of sways do you have?

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12-13-2010, 05:15 PM	#70 (permalink)
mick Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 903 Drives: Used to drive a 370z Rep Power: 16	haha. this reminds me of the time i visited the corvette forum. a corvette owner complained about the price the dealer had charged him for an oil change. another guy chimed in. "i am a porsche owner," he said, "and every time i say hello to my mechanic, he would charge me $200"

12-13-2010, 06:20 PM	#71 (permalink)
Maxima09 Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northeast Posts: 86 Drives: 09 Maxima Rep Power: 15	I have been in the same spot, got a Maxima, its an 09, but Ive been shopping other cars since about 6 months into owning it...not that the Maxima isn't a great car, it really is...but if you don't buy what you want you will always go back on it and it always costs money!