How do you think the 370z is going to stack up vs. the new 1M coupe?

ImportConvert

Those are the only people I know who own 1-series cars. They are usually murdered out and have a tune and a few bolt-ons. That, and the gay guy I used to work with who optioned a 1-series out to about 53K OTD I think it was, lol ('vert, and every option they had).

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chuckd05

I think they had to keep the performance a little behind the m3 ... thats why the 13.2 , I'm guessing its detuned pretty severely

Its also interesting they are doing the twin turbo and not the newer single turbo setup they have in the 335s now.

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Pharmacist

I wonder if BMW got to fix those damn fuel pumps. If not then 0-60 is more like infinity, as the car won't be moving at all!

Brakes from the M3? Every serious track enthusiast swaps out the M3 crappy brakes as one of the first mods they do on the car, so giving the same junk to the 1M is a fail from bmw.

And yes the car looks like crap and very ugly. Really, what's the point of this car? They kept the same engine and gearbox as the 135i. An aftermarket suspension on a 135i and an ECU tune would give identical performance to this car, making the 1M redundant. M cars have always been about free revving bespoke engines. M cars were never about slightly modified bread and butter BMW cars. That's like calling the new 335is an M3, which it obviously isn't. Why is this 1M considered an M car when its 3 series equivalent, the 335is is not? They both basically have the same engine tune and overboost. the M division is becomming a joke, making SUVs and entry level coupes. They should just keep the M3 and M5 as their M cars, and the rest of the M cars should be discontinued. This car should be renamed 135is, which it is. And how come they don't have an M version of the z4? That's far more suitable to the M division than a 135i.

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Trips

So tell us what you really think?

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Pharmacist

cant you read? I already said it. M cars should have their own unique high revving normally aspirated engines. M cars are not merely bolt on upgrades to ordinary bmw cars, which is what this 1m is

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esfourteen

*wooooosh*

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esfourteen

<-- wishes his Z would magically lose 300lbs without ripping out the interior.

I would like to know how cars like this weigh the same as the Z when we only have 2 seats and the Z is full of aluminum x,y,z...

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Endgame

no... this thing weighs at least 3396 and probably more on like 3415 like other numbers suggest. The Z with sport package is at 3250; check the Z vs Genesis vs Stang V6 test...

chuckd05

Pharmicist what you say about this car not being worth an M badge. Some may say about the nismo Z ... The suspension of the M3 is far better than the standard 335. That alone is a significant improvement and a functioning lsd ( all 1 series have open diffs ) is also a huge plus...

This car in the right persons hands will be a very nasty machine.

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Pharmacist

I dont like the nismo that much either, mainly due to the lack of any performance gain over the sport package. Amd my point is that m cars have always been unique. In addition to improved suspension and lsd they also have their own unique engine and transmission. The 1m is not unique at all. It is just a 135i with an ecu tune and some bolt on diff and suspension upgrades. It really is more like the 335is than the m3. At least bmw could have given it a detuned version of the m3 v8

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spearfish25

I would love the performance of a Z06, but I can't fathom paying 70-90k for the interior of the 'vette. Also, not many people would realize a vette is a $90k car.

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Zsteve

Honestly the interior of the new vettes are good. I would say the vette and Z are equal in the interior quality now (still not up to what my Audi interior was). Looks like they used about the same type of product for the dash and all and has a good amount of leather now. They also have alot of nice aftermarket upgrades for color matching the interior in leather too. Gauges are very clear and at an angle that you can see them all. Seats are leather but a little on light side for weight reduction. But seems to be on par with sports car seats and are comfortable. Controls on the steering wheel and I have the very base model so the other models will have even more. Top comes off and has a lock down spot in the rear area so it wont move around while driving. Love the top off ride. The ride is smoother and in the Z when going fast and going over slight humps in the road it felt like it was lifting up, not in the vette it hugs the road always. Less road (way less but still some) noise and no high rev harsh engine noise. The stock non bose stereo is better than the bose I had in the Z. The power is always there but not in a way that it feels like you are zooming all the time. When driving normal it feels like any other car power wise, it cruises at 1500 rpms in all gears. At 70 mph im at 1400 rpms. I can get 26/27 mpg on the highway at those rpms. But any time I want to go, the power is there and when you floor it, you get that slight hesitation cuz its an auto and then ZOOM you are feeling the tq and power. Maybe with some mods the hesitation will decrease and this thing can handle lots of added power.

The things I was getting tired of in the Z were the paint, road noise, rattles starting to appear all over, suspension felt like it was getting worse and I had only 25K miles on the car. Felt the bumps like crazy. These are areas that one can live with if you want to. The main reason was I wanted more power and a car that can handle a SC with no worries about the tranny.

The Z body shape is awesome tho, one of my favorites.

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Jessobear

Hopefully they've improved the seats, because the last C6 Vette I sat in seemed to be lacking in that area. GM has tons of crap seats because they seem to be totally married to Lear as a seat supplier. There's a reason you've never heard of Lear before. Because they don't make good seats.

Zsteve

They seem to be as comfortable as the Z so far. Time will tell how they hold up tho.

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