How do you think the 370z is going to stack up vs. the new 1M coupe?

ClemsonWill

I really like the performance aspect of the new 1m. I'm just not crazy about the looks epecially for the price. I'm guessing $50K with decent options. With the limited supply coming to the US you will probably pay near sticker.

Buy a fully loaded Z for less than $40k and spend the other $10-12K on FI.

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Jessobear

I've always like the 135i, but I think I'm in the minority. Many of my friends are big into BMW and they all universally HATE the 1-series. One of my friends refers to it as the BMW Shape Up, since the side skirt resembles those stupid shoes. They all universally rip on the suspension of the car, which is nowhere near a 3-series.

I'm a fan of the 335i as well, but it's just too pricey. One of my friends has a loaded '09 335i (M Sport Package, Premium Package, etc) with KW V3's and CSL knock-off wheels and it is really sweet. I went to BMW's website and priced up a comparable car. $51k. Wow.

Hopefully they don't ruin the look of the 135i with the M1 like they did with the M3. I really want to like the M3 but there is just way too much going on with the body. There's about ten vents in the rear bumper and the side mirrors are just awful. I don't buy an expensive BMW's to look like some ricer went wild with bodykits on it. When an AMG Benz looks subtle compared to your car, you're definitely on the wrong path.
This is not meant to call you dumb or anything, but you would never make this statement if you actually owned a car with an aftermarket turbo kit. There's always stuff coming loose, breaking, etc and the tuning is a total nightmare. The car rarely runs right. I know this because I used to own a car like this before selling it to get the Z.

Most people think you can drop a car off at a shop, pay them a few hundred dollars and a couple hours later have a tuned car. This could not be farther from the truth. This might be true on an N/A car where you're retaining the factory ECU and you're simply tweaking fuel and ignition slightly for peak power. With F/I, basically everything you have is out the window. Car manufacturers spend months perfecting the mapping on a dyno. With your own car, you end up with knock in odd places, rich and lean spots, etc.

With a factory car, you never have to worry about parts breaking or fasteners coming loose. Believe me, a factory turbocharged car is the way to go.

Off the soapbox now

Brazilbro

Not with the Z.. I droped mine of at a shop and got it back a tuned 450whp car. No problems at all.. I don't think anyone on this site with a TT kit has had 1 problem. Only thing I have to worry about it buying new rear tires and keeping the oil changed.

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It is important to note that the rest of the world pays a premium for these cars unlike Americans who get a deeply discounted vehicle. The stock 370Z in Canada starts at $40,000 and tops out around $50,000 for the sport touring model. And yes, our dollars are close enough to par to call it even...

Germans, Australians, Japanese, you name it, we all pay thousands more for cars than Americans. A twin-turbo'd Z from the factory would be in the $60000 mark here, if they even bothered to offer it to us. Keep in mind the Nismo is only available in the US in North America....

Having said that, the BMW is an awesome car and is in its own class, just like the 370Z. If you like Beemers, get one! If you like the Z, get one! But comparing them is really just wrong.

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LuckyJinx

So im driving a 60k car? Sweet 50% off

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wheee!

Is it twin turbo'd?

I didn't think so.... sorry, back to $55,000....

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phelan

i gotta admit, the 1M is quite tempting. bmw m cars have always been nothing short of brilliant, imo. if you can get one for ~45K i'd roll with it.

at least bmw gets their traction control correct, not like our z's "OMFG LOSING TRACTION CUT EVERYTHING" vdc button

and yes, nissan needs to seriously start stepping it up. there's some really nice cars that are offering direct competition to the Z, and as much as i love the z, it'd be insane not to notice some of the faults with it. if nissan ever gets around to fixing them, they'd be in good shape!

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kenchan

hey in more important news, phelan, is that yui?

those 135i's looks like a hyundai/kia. no thanks, i'd prefer a 3-series sedan if from bimmer but i dont foresee myself getting one anytime soon due to reliability problems they cant seem to fix.

Cunnos

Its tough to compare the 1M Coupe to the Z due to the price of each car. The 335i starts at 50k, so im thinking the 1M will be right around 50-55k. That being said, if the Z engineers had another 15 grand to play with, I'm sure the Z could would kill this car in every aspect. Besides the better interior and the more torque in the 1M, I still think the Z is a far better looking vehicle. Most of us wouldn't have had an opportunity to purchase a Z if Nissan wanted to make them compete against the M3, 1M, etc, so lets all be thankful that we have such great cars for such an affordable price.

I want a Z

where do you get your facts?
The 335i starts at $41

BMW North America

Cunnos

I meant to say 50k with everything included, my b.......

Jamaica

buy a genesis? might as well buy a mustang will you at it.

sonic370

sonic370

IMHO your not comparing apples to apples. BMW vs Nissian theres a big price difference.. i'm just as guilty taking the 370 for granted thinking the grass is greener on the other side.. with the 370 nissian hit it out of the park.

most of the cars people talk about trading for don't look half as good imo.

ProfessorDave

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