The new Camaros!

tvfreakazoid

I thought the 370 was closer to 3400lbs not 3200. I wish it was but it's not

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tvfreakazoid

Let's face it in reality most people are going to race in the streets (in a strait line). Not many people are going race on a track or twisty road. I assume most of us are just regular everyday drivers and driving strait is easier than on a track or on the twisties. So, I think the straits count a little for me.

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Endgame

Well... I certainly HOPE you are not racing on public streets...... That would be illegal Sir...

It was becuase of knuckleheads racing on public streets that several fatal accidents occured here in Phx within a span of a few months... It also cause Police to REALLY crack down on any type of spirited driving.

Please do not street race.

Asheth

I don't understand the point of this thread anymore as it has gone from being a I wonder if the Z can hang with the new SS before the numbers came out.

Now that we see that it can hang with the SS straight line numbers of course then the whole thing was oh SS has good numbers Z is close they are comparable. Facts and numbers out and no more speculation and now the debate is back to speculation?!? WTF

Its all variables end of the day if you choose to do so will lose against some camaro ss and beat some. Could be stock could possibly not be. My guess is on average most will be stock. Not everybody that gets a car does performance mods outside of Intake which is probably the most common.

You might get a Camaro that has exhaust work done doesnt mean he can drive. Could you still beat him if your in a stock Z or you have say a Intake? YUP.

But it is all woulda coulda,

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Asheth

No matter how great or whatever the camaro engine is. I have always been more impressed by doing more with less.

I am more impressed with the new Mustang than the SS because all GM did was dumb the base corvette engine into the car we seen on Transformers. Thats it. Did they really do much with that G8 platform if you read the Jalopinec review they say that the G8 is better pound for pound than the Camaro. America needs a shining light right now in the car industry and I believe they want that to be the camaro. GM didnt produce an engineering marvel they just dumped the Corvette engine in another car.

Ford actually took there current tech gave it a little bump in HP and produced a great vehicle that can handle.

PS. Yes the 3.7 in the Z is from the G but nissan touched the chasis lightened and upgraded interior. Reworked an already great car. It is hard to top an already great car. The new camaro is enjoying the success that the restored Z had in 03. It is no marvel but that is my 2 cents

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Crash

I totally agree with that. GM cuts corners like construction paper.

The concept they had for the volt looked great, but they ended up putting in the Malibu body instead. The G8 is a pretty cool car, but now it will have a Chevy cousin. And there's really no mechanical difference between the cars at all. Platform, power train, drive train, suspension... Identical. I don't see that as an achievement, but rather a failure since they STILL are having problems getting them built even though they're just changing the body of a car already getting built! LOL Yet both cars achieve identical goals.

Now to say the Z's cousin is the G is not really correct. They don't share anything except for the motor and (for the automatics) the trans. The platform, suspension, seating, and drive train are different. They both achieve two different goals. One is a performance track car, while one is a luxury sports coupe. And both cars have highly distinguishable differences that actually help to make sense when actually trying to decide which car to buy. Purpose engineered cars with 2 completely separate markets sharing the same power train.

GM could have called this car anything they wanted. But as a marketing ploy they called it a Camaro and gave it some retro Camaro styling and marketed it to the fan boys out there. I expect that GM would have done the same for Firebirds if Pontiac didn't already have the G8... After all, what would be the point of that then? Hell, they even are going as far as to make a "FIREHAWK" G8!!! That's a sin right there.

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tvfreakazoid

I was just wondering wasn't the 4the gen camaros that the SS was the top of the line model and not the z28? I wonder why they are switching it.

I was looking into getting a stang but I wonder why it doesn't have a 6sp manual? Plus they said that the stang was just a carry over from 09 model (engine) right? At least it's lighter so when you do put some mods on it, it will fly

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Robert_Nash

Yes...it's illegal and stupid and while I've done my share of street racing in the past, I've also seen enough people die, including friends, that I know how monumentally stupid and dangerous illegal racing actually is.

Frankly, no one has the right to put other people's lives at risk so that they can fell like some hot shot racer.

I know a lot of guys think that they are different...that the bad wrecks and wrecked lives always happen to other people...I"m a better driver and on and on...I've heard it all and it's all garbage and rationalization.

There are enough track days and drag strips in this country to provide all the legal racing you want and you don't have to put anyone else's life at risk doing it.

Arrive alive.

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theDreamer

Base with manual is 3,232, touring is 3,278
Base with automatic is 3,269, touring is 3,314

Now, add in other little features that might have been left out by "official" numbers, and you are still well under 3400 even with a touring automatic.

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