The new Camaros!

jakoye

It is, if that's your only basis for comparison.

But the Z is not about just horsepower, as some of its competitors seem to be. The Z's major advantage is superior handling and lighter weight. Less horsepower than most of the other "sports cars" in this price segment, but you know that the power it does have is still going to be usable when the road stops going straight.

The Camaro is a good competitor though, as I've said before. I think it's probably the best competitor to the Z among all these cars. I still think it's a Z for me, because I'd rather have handling than just pure power, but YMMV.

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frost

The lsx engines do net lots of gains very easily, but it's still a much heavier car. So a 10hp increase in a Z will do more than 10 hp in a camaro, fwiw.

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BanningZ

The new Camaro

Too heavy, too blocky, poor interior, speculated to have an extremely poor resale value. BUT it does have backseats and halos which appeal to some...but not me.

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Outrun

The 370Z puts up disappointing numbers:

0-60 in 5.2 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 @ 103.7 mph




The Camaro SS numbers:

0-60 in 5.0 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.0 @ 110.9 mph
2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS vs. 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T vs. 2010 Ford Mustang GT

These vids are both from edmunds.

The interior of the new camaro hits the mark. The console and gauges are very nice, and maintains the "retro" look.

Outrun

Great my vid doesn't work as youtube is performing site maintenance.

frost

While I'm the first person to say I wish the 370 had been a 350+hp car, how do you mean the numbers are disappointing? When I heard the HP, I was expecting it to run 13.5-13.6. The 4th gen f-bods they killed off in 02 weighed 3,411lbs, had about 325 hp, and ran 13.6 in the mags.
So, the Z weighs around 200lbs less and runs .1 - .2 seconds quicker in the quarter mile? Makes sense, and everyone should have expected these QM times.

(Sorry to be one of those guys who post several posts in a row, I keep thinking I'm done responding and I'm not! )

Outrun

I'm confused in the bolded part of your question. The Z isn't quicker than the SS.


Disappointing to me as I thought it was going to beat a much heavier car in 0-60 and quarter mile times.

frost

Again, I am referring to the 4th gens, of which the Z is indeed quicker. My post was to comment in the similar weight, HP, and QM times of the 4th gen versus the 370, and how we could have all predicted how fast the 370 was going to be once we knew the HP, simply because it was so similar to the 4th gen.

Robert_Nash

What did you do; look around for the worst numbers you could find for the 370???

Motortrend has reported:
For the 370Z...
0-60 in 4.7 sec.
1/4 in 13.3 @ 105.7
Lat Acel: 0.99g

and For the Camaro SS...
0-60 in 4.7 sec.
1/4 in 13.0 @ 111
Lat Acel: 0.90g

2009 Nissan 370Z - Specs and Test Data - First Test - Motor Trend

2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS vs 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T vs 2010 Ford Mustang GT - Specs and Road Test Data - Motor Trend

Not to take magazine comparisons too far but it seems pretty clear that in anything other than a straight line, the Z wins against the Bow-Tie and even in a straight line, the difference is rather small which is really a bit odd given the decided weight/HP advantage the Camaro holds over the 370.

Obviously, despite some obvious similarities, these are two different cars aimed, for the most part, at two different market segments so in that sense, it really doesn't matter how they stack up to each other.

That said, the 370Z holds its own against many, many other performance vehicles including the new Camaro SS and including some costing significantly more than the Z.

As I said earlier, the Camaro SS' horsepower is impressive and its numbers are certainly respectable; but I expected more.

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Crash

Actually, the power to weight ratio isn't that much of an advantage for the SS. I've already done the number quite a few times in different threads, but the fact is that it's got a power advantage, but not a weight advantage. The Z is more than 500Lbs lighter than the SS.

For all I care, they can bash the Z's power all they want. But our V6 puts down more power than theirs with a LOT more advances in technology on top of it. The LSx motor is a great motor, but in the end, it's still old technology. And when the SS can't keep up with the Z in the twisties, it will be us bashing their crappy suspension and obese platform.

The LS3 that's in the SS is going to make the SS a very expensive car. What ever the balance is between the SS and the Z, you can put into the Z to make enough extra power to get into the 12s.


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MightyBobo

You can get an 1SS for 30K, and modding an LS3 will be stupid easy compared to a 370Z. The only leg a 370Z has on the new Camaro is handling, as far as performance wise. GM's LSX motors are no joke.

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frost

Looks great from the outside, they took the retro design and did it better than challenger or mustang imho, but jesus christ, how many times do buyers have to ask for it:
MAKE IT SMALLER/LIGHTER STUPID!

And again, interior = horrible amount of plastic. Embarrassing.

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