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I think I'm also a false Z owner. I think the 370Z is an absolutely gorgeous car. For me the the Z32 comes in close second. If I thought the

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Old 07-27-2012, 10:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I think I'm also a false Z owner. I think the 370Z is an absolutely gorgeous car. For me the the Z32 comes in close second. If I thought the Z32 looked better I would have bought that :P
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If you look at the Z32 from the side it does have a hint of 240Z (look at the A pillar and roof), but I agree it does not look like it at all. To say it is not a true Z car is wrong. I think it is the best Z car to date. That is just me.
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It seems like people don't like the 350Z for some reason. I feel that there are far too many on the road (and driven by d-bags in my area for some reason). My favorites are 240Z and 300ZX(TT) tied..........and 370Z after. I didn't really care for the 260Z/280Z much because of the gimmicks or poor implimentation of EFI (in the 280Z's case). To touch on the inline-6 making a real Z.........I am a big fan of inline-4 and inline-6 engines, but they would be difficult to smog unless you have an inside connect and require builds to make power over the magic number (without catastrophic failure being almost a definite). For the CA18DET and SR20DET, that number was somewhere between 300-350HP depending on production model. Not sure what it was for the inline-6.

I love my 09 NISMO. Now that it has a bit more guts, I like it even more. If you put the same effort into giving the 300ZX and 370Z similar sized turbos and equal engine management (tuning, chip PowerFC, or whatever), I think it would be a pretty good match. The real question should be what would the cost difference. Take into account the costs when the 300ZX was 4 years old and the cost of parts at that time. Then make the compairison.
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The Z32 does have great styling and performance for its age. My own humble, personal opinion goes something like: 240z > 370z > 300zx. I even considered selling the 370z in order to fund a BPU 300zx project that would become a daily driver. When I sat down and thought it all out, it just didn't make much sense to go back 20 years. When you say it out loud, it's hard to realize that the 300zx is over 20 years old now. Just food for thought.
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I didn't really care for the 260Z/280Z much because of the gimmicks or poor implimentation of EFI (in the 280Z's case). To touch on the inline-6 making a real Z.........
What gimmicks are you talking about? The 240/260/280z were basically the same car, engine was changed a few times to combat more strict emissions. The 280z had a different suspension character, but the car is definitely built to be more solid than the 240z. Maybe you were thinking about the 280zx?

I was being facetious with the inline-6 comment, a z-car is a z-car - unless we're talking about 2+2s, I prefer to think they don't exist.
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What gimmicks are you talking about? The 240/260/280z were basically the same car, engine was changed a few times to combat more strict emissions. The 280z had a different suspension character, but the car is definitely built to be more solid than the 240z. Maybe you were thinking about the 280zx?

I was being facetious with the inline-6 comment, a z-car is a z-car - unless we're talking about 2+2s, I prefer to think they don't exist.
True..............maybe I mixed up the 280Z and 280ZX. Once they added the louvers, vents, and such, I lost interest in the later S30 models. Instead of getting a wider track while getting bidder, they kept the car about the same. The 280Z did get the crap EFI implimentation though. Almost everyone I know (that had one) had problems with it. Granted, I wasn't born when the original Fairlady Z was sold, but I wasn't far behind. My Grandmother's neighbor had one. He and my uncle we "rivals" so to say. My uncle had a z28 Camaro and they used to kick it a bit. Funny thing is that that guy had every Z up to the Z32TT. Turns out that the house that he had next door to my grandmother's was his "safehouse" or home away from home, lol!
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While I do like the 240Z, it is just too small IMHO. And maybe I feel this way because I am 6'4". I actually liked the 350Z a lot before I got my 370Z.
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the main reason i like the 370 over the 350 is the headlights and tail lights.the 370's are a perfect design imo.love em
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Working here at Z1 I get to work with and drive both sides of this arguement. My wife and I own 2 Z32's and love them. I will never sell them because they have so much sentimental value to me.

However, we BOTH want a 370Z. In terms of handling right out of the box....370Z wins hands down in my opinion. As far as tuning goes, the 300zx TT will yield a much better ROI in terms of horsepower per dollar spent. The catch to this statement is that the 300zx is getting so old, you will have a few grand tied up right out of the gate in basic maintanence. This does not event consider repairs, paint/body work and the headache following the realization that most parts for the Z32 are already being discontinued.

Each Z model has their own appeal. I would like to get my hands on a 240Z, as well as a Shiro Z31 someday...and I would not mind having a NISMO 350Z.
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It's odd reading that the 300zx is now an "old car". Just remember that several of these forum members are heavily biased towards the 370Z as they were crapping in diapers when the Z32 was released and in its prime. Perhaps there is a dedicated 300ZX forum that you can get guidance from. It's refreshing to see an older sports car looking sharp and well maintained.

If you have the time and money to restore/maintain the Z32, then go for it. I regularly fly in airplanes that were made in the 50s/60s, and keeping a Z32 sharp & healthy is a lot cheaper.
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370z is still the fat girl of the Z cars!

The early 300Z was a confusing car...

VQ motor while ugly to look at makes the new Z cars to me!

When the next Z hits you guys are on a be singing a different song...lol
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You do know the TT 300ZX weights more than the 370 right? Also where do you think the weight went with all the extra safety braces, airbags and MODERN features.
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You do know the TT 300ZX weights more than the 370 right? Also where do you think the weight went with all the extra safety braces, airbags and MODERN features.
I would be interested in the source that says this. Common sense says other wise. But I won't disagree with you until you fail to provide a source.
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You do know the TT 300ZX weights more than the 370 right? Also where do you think the weight went with all the extra safety braces, airbags and MODERN features.
talking about looks here...

performance increases with each model...fact!

looks however is subject
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I drove my 2009 to a racing scale, with a full tank it came in at 3348lbs. This is on a base model with sports pkg

300ZX weight
(3474 lbs) http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/300zx3/images/auto3005.jpg
(35xx lbs) Nissan 300ZX Enthusiast's Buying Guide - Sport Compact Car
(3550lbs - 3600lbs) 1994 10Best Cars - 10Best Cars - Page 11 - Car and Driver

They sold almost 30K unit in 1990 alone, that's almost as much as a 4 years run with the 370.

This is what else I do know
I have 4 19" rims and wide 19" tires, not little 16" rims.
I have side airbags and crash bars at the door
I have rotors that are as big as the wheels on some cars
I have 6 forward gears
I have a chassis that is way stiffer
I have a car that handles better

I don't know why some of you guys have fascination with old cars. They were great back in 1990, but it is time to move on and get a new car. Why compare something that is 20 years old.
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