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heres a video on top gear of a 350z vs. a 300zx tt. the 350z loses. do you guys think a stock 370z is would beat this stock 300zx tt?

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Old 08-21-2009, 09:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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heres a video on top gear of a 350z vs. a 300zx tt. the 350z loses. do you guys think a stock 370z is would beat this stock 300zx tt?
YouTube - 350z vs 300zx
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I think from a dead stop the 370 would beat the 300zx. From a roll of about 10mph the TT would win. The TT is incredible once it's moving, just not a great drag car. 370 engine size, weight and torque would take it off the line a beat it thru the qtr.
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I think from a dead stop the 370 would beat the 300zx. From a roll of about 10mph the TT would win. The TT is incredible once it's moving, just not a great drag car. 370 engine size, weight and torque would take it off the line a beat it thru the qtr.
the 370z has improvements over the 350z and would do very well in a qtr mile run.

My 240 can also take care of 300zx tt ! oh never mind I forgot I had a V8.
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One video doesn't prove crap. The fact is that the 03-06 350z is a drivers race when compared to the 300zxTT and from a roll the 300zx has the edge. The 07-08 350z would kill a 300zx TT in a drag and would easily walk a 300zxTT from a roll. The 370z would have no issues in any kind of a race. The 300zxTT and similar cars of the era just have so much hype behind them that it's hard for people to let go. The 300zxTT in it's time was amazing but in today's world it's nothing special and actually kind of slow (in stock form). I mean remember, this car pulls a 13.9 in the 1/4. That is the same times that a 20k SRT-4 can pull, a 25k WRX will pull much faster times, same with the cobtalt SS, etc. To it's credit the 300zxTT with some basic mods is a monster but in stock form it's so restricted from the factory. Just some old history for your new people to the Z world, when Nissan designed the VG30TT motor they designed it with 600hp in mind. Then they went ahead and swaped in smaller turbos and intercoolers, plugged up the exhaust and intake, and dialed down the ECU. This is why with some basic mods the car really responds.
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One video doesn't prove crap. The fact is that the 03-06 350z is a drivers race when compared to the 300zxTT and from a roll the 300zx has the edge. The 07-08 350z would kill a 300zx TT in a drag and would easily walk a 300zxTT from a roll. The 370z would have no issues in any kind of a race. The 300zxTT and similar cars of the era just have so much hype behind them that it's hard for people to let go. The 300zxTT in it's time was amazing but in today's world it's nothing special and actually kind of slow (in stock form). I mean remember, this car pulls a 13.9 in the 1/4. That is the same times that a 20k SRT-4 can pull, a 25k WRX will pull much faster times, same with the cobtalt SS, etc. To it's credit the 300zxTT with some basic mods is a monster but in stock form it's so restricted from the factory. Just some old history for your new people to the Z world, when Nissan designed the VG30TT motor they designed it with 600hp in mind. Then they went ahead and swaped in smaller turbos and intercoolers, plugged up the exhaust and intake, and dialed down the ECU. This is why with some basic mods the car really responds.
i would not say 5.5 seconds to 60 is slow. i do in fact believe the 300zx tt is faster than any 03-06 350z. with the hr engine it might be a different story.
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I think from a dead stop the 370 would beat the 300zx. From a roll of about 10mph the TT would win. The TT is incredible once it's moving, just not a great drag car. 370 engine size, weight and torque would take it off the line a beat it thru the qtr.
Well that video was a 1/4 mile from a dead stop and the 300 had it by a car length. I think it would be close with a 370.
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One video doesn't prove crap. The fact is that the 03-06 350z is a drivers race when compared to the 300zxTT and from a roll the 300zx has the edge. The 07-08 350z would kill a 300zx TT in a drag and would easily walk a 300zxTT from a roll. The 370z would have no issues in any kind of a race. The 300zxTT and similar cars of the era just have so much hype behind them that it's hard for people to let go. The 300zxTT in it's time was amazing but in today's world it's nothing special and actually kind of slow (in stock form). I mean remember, this car pulls a 13.9 in the 1/4. That is the same times that a 20k SRT-4 can pull, a 25k WRX will pull much faster times, same with the cobtalt SS, etc. To it's credit the 300zxTT with some basic mods is a monster but in stock form it's so restricted from the factory. Just some old history for your new people to the Z world, when Nissan designed the VG30TT motor they designed it with 600hp in mind. Then they went ahead and swaped in smaller turbos and intercoolers, plugged up the exhaust and intake, and dialed down the ECU. This is why with some basic mods the car really responds.
A 300ZX TT is faster then a 03-06 350Z. In the 1/4 mile a 07-08 350Z has a slight edge, from a roll its a drivers race. A 370Z should beat a stock 300ZX TT everywhere.

For reference a well running & driven 300ZX TT is capable of a low 5 second 0-60 and mid-high 13s in the 1/4 mile. Stock TT Zs should trap around 103-105MPH.
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1985 Nissan 300ZX 8.2 16.4
1985 Nissan 300ZX Turbo (auto) 7.4 15.7
1987 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 8.8 16.5
1989 Nissan 300ZX 7.1 15.5
1990 Nissan 300ZX 7.1 15.5
1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 6.5 15.0
1990 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo 5.6 14.1
1991 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 7.5 15.9
1991 Nissan 300ZX Turbo (auto) 7.0 15.4
1992 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 5.7 14.2
1993 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 5.2 13.8
1994 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 6.0 14.4
1995 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 5.5 13.9

2003 Nissan 350z 5.4 14.1
2004 Nissan 350z Roadster 5.7 14.3
2004 Nissan 350Z 5.3 13.77 (M.T. Mar '04)
2005 Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary Edition 6 Speed 5.8 14.3 (C&D Apr '05)

2009 Nissan 370Z 4.7 13.3 (MT Online)

Even when not broken in, the 370z will run 13.7, this is quicker than any of the times listed above.
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heres a video on top gear of a 350z vs. a 300zx tt. the 350z loses. do you guys think a stock 370z is would beat this stock 300zx tt?
YouTube - 350z vs 300zx

The early 350z lost but the later HR 350z can beat a TT 300zx if it's stock. Now if the TT has any mods at all, it would be over for the 350z, or 370z.
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A 300ZX TT is faster then a 03-06 350Z. In the 1/4 mile a 07-08 350Z has a slight edge, from a roll its a drivers race. A 370Z should beat a stock 300ZX TT everywhere.

For reference a well running & driven 300ZX TT is capable of a low 5 second 0-60 and mid-high 13s in the 1/4 mile. Stock TT Zs should trap around 103-105MPH.
You can believe what you like but fact are facts. The 300zxTT is good for 13.9 in the 1/4 wile the 03-06 350z is good for the same. Yes in both cases there are people who have seen or heard of slightly faster but on average 13.9 seems to be what both cars run. That means it comes down to the driver. The HR Z has more than a slight edge. Most HR's are running 13.5-13.7 with skilled drivers going as low as 13.1. The 370z is no contest considering most times posted for it are sub 13.5.

Trust me, I love the 300zxTT. I used to be obsessed with it back in the day. I've been around Z's long enough to remember when people would debate if a Z31 turbo was faster than a Z32 N/A. Then as the years went on the debate progressed to the Z32TT vs. the 350z. This happens everytime there is a new model. The 300zxTT is a great car but in todays world it comes up short. I single video doesn't prove anything, look at the overall data.
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I have to admit I have not driven a 350hr, and it has been a long, long time since my TT was driven in stock condition. All my opinions are based on a high tech butt-dynamics dyno and are subject to wow factors. Like when I am on the interstate and punch the TT at about 60 and wow 130 already. My 350 is an 03 with bolton mods and will drive circles around my TT( I think it weighs like 6 or 7 tons ). My 370 seems to be getting close to perfect all around, handles great, decent power off the line, and great power up top. Anyway, they all whip my S30, but all are great cars and would not trade off any of them!!!!!
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You can believe what you like but fact are facts. The 300zxTT is good for 13.9 in the 1/4 wile the 03-06 350z is good for the same. Yes in both cases there are people who have seen or heard of slightly faster but on average 13.9 seems to be what both cars run. That means it comes down to the driver. The HR Z has more than a slight edge. Most HR's are running 13.5-13.7 with skilled drivers going as low as 13.1. The 370z is no contest considering most times posted for it are sub 13.5.

Trust me, I love the 300zxTT. I used to be obsessed with it back in the day. I've been around Z's long enough to remember when people would debate if a Z31 turbo was faster than a Z32 N/A. Then as the years went on the debate progressed to the Z32TT vs. the 350z. This happens everytime there is a new model. The 300zxTT is a great car but in todays world it comes up short. I single video doesn't prove anything, look at the overall data.
I too have been around Zs long enough and remember seeing your posts on zcar.com years ago. Having plenty of experience with all of the above cars I can tell you the single most important bit of data you can look at is trap speeds when comparing acceleration between two vehicles. An 03-06 350Z simply dosnt have the power:weight to match a 300ZX TTs trap speeds stock vs stock, an HR is about dead even on trap speeds (103-105MPH), and the 370Zs are recording the highest average trap speeds (104-107MPH).
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it's the launching that kills 300zx's times. anti squat suspension hurts it.
along with the lame rubber diff and subframe mounts.

switch to a stiff material and the Z32TT gets much better launches. not to mention the Z32TT weighs alot more then any 350z or 370z coupe.

if only nissan gave the 300zx tt, T28 turbos, 555cc injectors and a bigger wheel and brake package it would be so much better. the supra came with all those three. and look how much power the damn thing makes. 3" turbo back exhaust, 18lbs of boost and bam 500hp.


dont get me wrong, the 370z and 350z are easier to live with as far as creature comforts go. but then again they can't haul as much stuff as a 300zx lol.

in my eyes the 370z is only missing one thing. turbos. then it would have been a perfect succesor to the 300zxtt.

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