So how is everyone pleased with their Z performance wise?

Jquad · 10-27-2010, 11:50 PM

Im ok with it for now

ImportConvert · 10-27-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

did you actually read the link you posted?

"The BMW M3, which ranked third in the reliability survey, is not recommended because the magazine has not tested it. Other versions of the BMW 3-series are recommended, though."

Yes. What they mean is: "We have a lot of data showing us the car is reliable, but since we have not driven it, we can't tell you how much fun/not fun/ etc. it is to drive, so we can't tell you to go buy it. What we can tell you, is that those who have have had good luck with it lasting."

I thought the same as you until I realized that 1 press-car doesn't = a reliability study, and the reliability study was a survey of many cars.

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Originally Posted by Endgame

I am referring to the 2010. My 02 was pretty noisy, but my 370Z is no louder than the 2010.....

The 2010 mustang and the 2002 mustang are worlds apart. I worked for Ford (sales) in 2005 when they switched over. Drove the new, drove the old. Wow.

TreyUT · 10-28-2010, 12:02 AM

Thank you Soygen. Why the f'ck is he on here?

Endgame · 10-28-2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

The 2010 mustang and the 2002 mustang are worlds apart. I worked for Ford (sales) in 2005 when they switched over. Drove the new, drove the old. Wow.

You got that right. But my Z still is not louder than the newer Stangs. But the SN95 Stangs were very noisy.

And about the M3, I read an article from the M division chief and he stated they moved to the 8 as they has extracted all they could from the I6. It was a good article, but is about two years old now. BMW had to keep up with Audi and the RS4..... No matter what they did to the I6, it would not be enough to keep up with the RS4. I think the CSL got 360 or 370 out of the CSL. Not enough..... I was pretty up on that whole discussion as, at the time, I was planning to get a M3.

m4a1mustang · 10-27-2010, 09:29 PM

What mustang are you comparing the interior sound to, endgame? I'm certain that a db test would show the Z to be a good bit louder than a 2011 mustang in the cockpit. For one the Z has NO sound deadening at all and its a hatch car with big wheel wells right behind the driver.

Ask Modshack, Red, myself, etc. and we'll all tell you the same thing. The car is very quiet compared to a Z stock for stock.

Now my 2003 GT... that was a different story.

Red__Zed · 10-27-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

Nevermind man...

Porsche has a FLAT 6. Very different and more suitable to making power when compared to V or I 6's. What nissan has done IS amazing.

Read up more on BMW, you will see why they changed direction. They needed to step up to the 8 to be more competitive. The I6 in the E46 was the best they could do (CSL notwithstanding).

It is not behind the times in terms of power. The Z is NOT a mucscle car. It is a sports car. As such it is right there with the TT RS, Cayman/Cayman S/1 M coupe/Genesis, etc.

And how do you know the VQ37VHR is not reliable? I could say the same about the Z06's engine. I have 'read' a few thread about their engines going kaboom. I guess the few stories I have read makes it true. Same with the RX8. People that did not know how to care for a Rotary and needed engine replacements made the engne unreliable. I never had any problems from mine.

Enjoy whatever ride makes you smile and do not knock others.

Do not be a hater, but then again.... Haters will hate.

Pretty sure BMW changed direction because it just made the most sense. They probably could have extracted more from the 6, they just happened to realize they could pull more power out of a V8, while saving weight. Additionally, they were having racing success with the 8-- not so much with their I6.

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Originally Posted by cab83_750

FYI for everyone, per the article on Yahoo, BMW's reliability is down the tube along with MB.

Article was from last night! Cheers!

No doubt, their recent stuff hasn't been up to par. My 540i has ~200k on the clock though, and is still driving strong.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

What mustang are you comparing the interior sound to, endgame? I'm certain that a db test would show the Z to be a good bit louder than a 2011 mustang in the cockpit. For one the Z has NO sound deadening at all and its a hatch car with big wheel wells right behind the driver.

Ask Modshack, Red, myself, etc. and we'll all tell you the same thing. The car is very quiet compared to a Z stock for stock.

Now my 2003 GT... that was a different story.

No doubt. I think many people still have the reputation of the older mustangs in their mind, and haven't realized how much of a change there has been.

Endgame · 10-27-2010, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

What mustang are you comparing the interior sound to, endgame? I'm certain that a db test would show the Z to be a good bit louder than a 2011 mustang in the cockpit. For one the Z has NO sound deadening at all and its a hatch car with big wheel wells right behind the driver.

Ask Modshack, Red, myself, etc. and we'll all tell you the same thing. The car is very quiet compared to a Z stock for stock.

Now my 2003 GT... that was a different story.

I am referring to the 2010. My 02 was pretty noisy, but my 370Z is no louder than the 2010.....

m4a1mustang · 10-27-2010, 09:32 PM

Fwiw I don't see any reason to question the reliability of the VQ... as long as you maintain it properly it will go on and on just like most anything else.

Endgame · 10-28-2010, 09:31 AM

exactly. and fords FRPP program is awesome. buy a supercharger through them, have it installed, and you are still covered under warranty. +120 HP. awesome...

i would still get a GT-R in a heartbeat over anything else on the market today however..

ImportConvert · 10-28-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

exactly. and fords FRPP program is awesome. buy a supercharger through them, have it installed, and you are still covered under warranty. +120 HP. awesome...

i would still get a GT-R in a heartbeat over anything else on the market today however..

If you have the money, the GTR is an awesome car. I would be interested in one if it were a normal standard (which would also have the effect of dropping it's price into my range that I am looking into).

As it stands, though, the GT-R is out of my price range. Having to look to GM for my jollies.

Still an awesome car, though. Wish they had a mid-range car for say 55-65K instead of a 45K Z and an 85K GT-R only.

m4a1mustang · 10-28-2010, 10:25 AM

Yep, there are always compromises.

When you start tracking a car that's when you find them. Bushings designed for comfort over performance being just one of those things.

Red__Zed · 10-28-2010, 02:28 PM

Import-- those pics you added don't seem to work btw.

Endgame · 10-28-2010, 06:06 PM

Getting the thread back on track...

I just got back from a spirited drive and I seem to never get tired of driving this car. I find myself purposely finding the curvy roads and taking the backroads so that I can have fun with this car. I used to hate 2nd gear, but that hate is even going away. I cannot wait to get my M370 installed and tuned.

I know I always praise my old RX8 with MS suspension, but the more I get used to the Z, the more I begin to love it over the 8. With a few suspension bits (and I do not have sways yet), this car is truly transformed to a great handler; very composed. It just seems to have the perfect balance of everything. I am still extremely pleased.

And I have recently started noticing how many people stare. I passed by two 911 drivers and one E92 M3. The 911 drivers (one older gentlemen and one older lady) just started as if to say, "wow". The M3 driver just smiled and shook his head up and down... YES....

All in a day's work....

m4a1mustang · 10-28-2010, 07:03 PM

It helps that you made your car look 10x hotter than it did stock.

Your car is so effing clean and sexy.

Endgame · 10-28-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

It helps that you made your car look 10x hotter than it did stock.

Your car is so effing clean and sexy.

THX!!

taking this thread off track again: When did you get the Ford Racing Sport mufflers?? Have I just been missing that?

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10-27-2010, 09:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	What mustang are you comparing the interior sound to, endgame? I'm certain that a db test would show the Z to be a good bit louder than a 2011 mustang in the cockpit. For one the Z has NO sound deadening at all and its a hatch car with big wheel wells right behind the driver. Ask Modshack, Red, myself, etc. and we'll all tell you the same thing. The car is very quiet compared to a Z stock for stock. Now my 2003 GT... that was a different story. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-27-2010, 09:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Fwiw I don't see any reason to question the reliability of the VQ... as long as you maintain it properly it will go on and on just like most anything else. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-28-2010, 10:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Yep, there are always compromises. When you start tracking a car that's when you find them. Bushings designed for comfort over performance being just one of those things. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-28-2010, 07:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	It helps that you made your car look 10x hotter than it did stock. Your car is so effing clean and sexy. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-28-2010, 12:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
TreyUT Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 72 Drives: 2010 370Z BS Rep Power: 16	Thank you Soygen. Why the f'ck is he on here?

10-28-2010, 09:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	exactly. and fords FRPP program is awesome. buy a supercharger through them, have it installed, and you are still covered under warranty. +120 HP. awesome... i would still get a GT-R in a heartbeat over anything else on the market today however..

10-28-2010, 02:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 121	Import-- those pics you added don't seem to work btw.

10-28-2010, 06:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	Getting the thread back on track... I just got back from a spirited drive and I seem to never get tired of driving this car. I find myself purposely finding the curvy roads and taking the backroads so that I can have fun with this car. I used to hate 2nd gear, but that hate is even going away. I cannot wait to get my M370 installed and tuned. I know I always praise my old RX8 with MS suspension, but the more I get used to the Z, the more I begin to love it over the 8. With a few suspension bits (and I do not have sways yet), this car is truly transformed to a great handler; very composed. It just seems to have the perfect balance of everything. I am still extremely pleased. And I have recently started noticing how many people stare. I passed by two 911 drivers and one E92 M3. The 911 drivers (one older gentlemen and one older lady) just started as if to say, "wow". The M3 driver just smiled and shook his head up and down... YES.... All in a day's work....

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